Buyers who don't pay

[boomerangent]

Im still struggling to understand why somebody would buy a 'buy it now' item and then just not pay for it with no contact whatsoever from them. Its frustrating that ebay doesnt really help out sellers when this occurs - I mean its one thing getting the final value fee refunded, but what about when its the last item in stock, meaning that I have to re-list it at a cost to me.

Also, this thing about the buyer getting an unpaid item against them. Does that really acheive anything ? Not that I can see.

Anyway, rant over, lets hope sales pick up in the Christmas lead up 🙂

[viewmont1071]

How can the asforesaid prudent sellers identify and protect themselves from the INR scammers that are flourishing beacause sellers cannot leave sppropriate feedback.

Those sellers that are bold enough to record their perception of a transaction whether it be positive or negative have the same "helpers" that admonish sellers for leaving negative positives running and adding same to their blocked bidders lists.

How does ebay look after sellers in these instances?????

by trying to hide that information by disallowing those references and allowing the same scamming INR fraudsters to remove comments when they are found..........

How many links do you want to threads where

.... some of those same helpers.......

thanked profusely another seller for bringing the scammer to their attention?????

selective policy appliance  IMO is not a good look but often the the only party I see gaining anything from that selectivity is EBAY

....... I wonder why? 😉

[viewmont1071]

http://community.ebay.com.au/topic/Selling/Johor-Bahru-Malaysia/600153800

How does the strike system protect sellers from this?

What systems does ebay and paypal have in place to protect sellers from scammers like the ione ion the thread above?

How did the seller in the thread above identify that they were dealing with a fraudster...............

Who thinks the buyer feedback left and found by the seller in the thread in the link above is not useful????

[viewmont1071]

http://community.ebay.com.au/topic/Selling/Possible-Guy-Banned/600153137?#msg604964297

I wonder why the 'helpers" are so sure that sellers who leave a negative positive do not open and close  NPB disputes correctly???

It appears to me that it is because it is the best guess that suits their argument.

See how the 'helpers" steer the readers by not acknowledging that the neg pos brigade could just as easily open and close a NPB dispute as any other ebayer and therefore giving the buyer a strike as well as leaving "the mark"?

http://community.ebay.com.au/topic/Selling/Non-Paying-Buyers/500156942?#msg505042816

[viewmont1071]

So if generic non payer feedback ($ non payiong bidder) was left by EBAY when a NPB dispute was closed in the sellers favour then the numpty NPB negative piositive brigade could not leave positive negative because.....wait for it...... ebay already has...........

The plain fact is that for that amount of sellers that leave a neg pos but do not open a dispute would be more likely to so that they could leave "$$$the mark$$$"

The blockers are happy and the lookers are happy.........................

The only person not happy would be the non paying buyer.......

I note the 'helpers" commenting in other threads that the buyer could just go and open another account........

So what is to stop them doing the same thing once they have too many strikes on an account?

Ebay could fix the problem easily rather than sanctioning sellers that do not give a toss re policy anyways

[ss1630]

I have the blocks in place, and rest a bit easier, but recently I did have someone message me with..'oh I can't buy from you because I have unpaid strikes...what can you do?' and then shortly after., Item purchased and "oh it's OK i just used a friends account to buy it".

Hmmm... what to do then? Is that a violation? I can only suppose at least the 'friend' risks the strike if it happens again.

[2106greencat]

My pet hate - Sellers who not only don't open the UPI to give the strikes, but turn around and leave a neg with a green dot - All those sellers are doing is increasing the number of 'positive' FB for these buyer's, how does that make any sense at all? If a seller chooses to foroge the process, move on and cop the fvf etc then that is your personal choice, but PLEASE don't reward the buyer with a positive dot.

[kafav]

lyndal1838,you are 100% correct,but i try to understand people,and i know its my mistake,because its burn me in my life alot,from now i will be strict,after 4 days payment not receive i will open case.  

[kafav]

sellers live negative under green dot,so other sellers know,i live few times negative for buyers under green dot,because ebay cancel negative for buyers

[*new2vintage]

It is stupid to do that. I doubt that many sellers check buyers' feedback anyway. All you do by not arranging for a non payer to receive a strike is help them.

[patchoo78]

Hmmm... what to do then? Is that a violation? I can only suppose at least the 'friend' risks the strike if it happens again.

Yes, it is a violation. It's circumvention of eBay policy and it is not allowed.. You can actually report the buyer as you have proof that they used their friends account to get around your blocks. 

You would be well within your rights to cancel the transaction stating the reason why you don't wish to sell to the buyer; if they open a Non Performing Seller dispute then all you have to do is reply to this and state the reason why you cancelled the transaction.. 

Not sure if eBay use an IP ban for buyers who make new accounts to avoid blocks, but they should..