on โ27-09-2023 05:06 PM
There has been messages about fake hard drives being sold on Ebay for several years and Ebay is doing nothing about it. I urge every body who has been duped by these drives to make a complaint. It appears all Ebay is interested in is making money, not looking after members.
on โ05-10-2023 06:38 AM
@pjs04 wrote:Yes I fully expected the drives I purchased to be fake, but you always hope for a bargain arising from some distributor's fire sale.
So you have intentionally set out to buy fake hard drives, to support dodgy sellers. It is because of people like you (bad buyer), that dodgy sellers are still in business.
The best way to stop them is to not buy from them.
Looking at your past purchases, you enjoy buying from sellers with bad feedback, stop encouraging them.
Please don't encourage bad sellers.
on โ05-10-2023 08:37 AM
If a casual buyer 'does'nt know' it is up to them to check what they are buying
Then again, I'm not into buying fake garbage from dodgy sellers
Stop supporting dodgy as sellers and keeping them in business
on โ05-10-2023 08:42 AM
@pjs04 wrote:Yes I fully expected the drives I purchased to be fake, but you always hope for a bargain arising from some distributor's fire sale.
A Best Match search for "Seagate 5TB" gave me about 10 listings with drive prices that would suggest the drives are fake. Some are supposedly by domestic sellers while other are from sellers in China. All are using stock advertising images, but there appear to be no images showing higher profile 4TB and 5TB drive images.
As an example item 186099264717 offers Seagate USB 3.0 portable drives ranging from 1TB for $42.99, up to 5TB for $49.99.
There's no obvious way for a casual buyer to know which drives are real. And lots of sellers offering drives at similar price points might lead buyers to think these prices are now legitimately "in the ballpark".
I would agree a lot of casual buyers fall for this sort of thing. Ebay, I think, has encouraged (in its ads) the perception that you can pick up bargains on its site. But a bargain is one thing and a wildly unrealistic price is another.
Where you hit the nail on the head though is when you say
There's no obvious way for a casual buyer to know which drives are real.
That's pretty much why casual buyers should steer clear of buying this sort of thing on ebay.
But as you say, they see a whole lot of sellers all listing this sort of thing at a particular price point and think-hey, the retail stores are ripping us off, much cheaper to buy here.
As for your own particular situation, I agree with countess in that I would make a claim for significantly not as described, if I were you.
Put it back together. I know technically, you are supposed to return an item totally untampered with, but technically, a seller is supposed to provide exactly what is described in the ad too.
Just say it doesn't have the stated capacity. With luck, you should win your claim and the seller will have to refund you.
There is no way ebay can vet all these ads. They can't go out and check each hard drive. They don't have a lot of incentive to stop these types of sellers as after all, the sellers are supplying a product and quite probably a lot of buyers don't know any better and are quite happy with the fakes, at least at first, and give positive feedback.
Your best way to hit back at a seller who has sent out a fake item is to get your money back from that seller and then leave neg feedback to say the drive was nowhere near the stated capacity.
As someone else said, steer clear of the word fake though as otherwise they may get the feedback removed.
โ05-10-2023 11:18 AM - edited โ05-10-2023 11:22 AM
Because you are not supposed to open a HD, the best way to test its real capacity is to use a software program like h2testw.
As springy said, you could still try if you know how to put it back together, but normally the best way to test a HD is to use h2testw (or any similar software).
Sadly, the more buyers buy from these sellers, the more they support them, not only in terms of money, but also of fake reputation because eBay gives sellers who sell a lot nice titles like "top-rated" even if they have horrible feedback, or "one of eBay's most reputable sellers".
Additionally, many naรฏve buyers just connect the HD to their computer, think the capacity is fine and give the seller positive fb, and as fb cannot be changed on eBay, when they find out the capacity is not real after adding more files, it is too late (not only for the fb, but often also for a case).
on โ05-10-2023 02:37 PM
@springyzone wrote:
@pjs04 wrote:Yes I fully expected the drives I purchased to be fake, but you always hope for a bargain arising from some distributor's fire sale.
A Best Match search for "Seagate 5TB" gave me about 10 listings with drive prices that would suggest the drives are fake. Some are supposedly by domestic sellers while other are from sellers in China. All are using stock advertising images, but there appear to be no images showing higher profile 4TB and 5TB drive images.
As an example item 186099264717 offers Seagate USB 3.0 portable drives ranging from 1TB for $42.99, up to 5TB for $49.99.
There's no obvious way for a casual buyer to know which drives are real. And lots of sellers offering drives at similar price points might lead buyers to think these prices are now legitimately "in the ballpark".
Put it back together. I know technically, you are supposed to return an item totally untampered with, but technically, a seller is supposed to provide exactly what is described in the ad too.
Just say it doesn't have the stated capacity. With luck, you should win your claim and the seller will have to refund you.
Nope cant do that, as OP says it shows up on windows as having the correct and he is only making an assumption that it is not the correct capacity based on the 128 in the part number of the SD card. And the only way he would know that is by having opened the device. Now I am sure you are not suggesting that OP tell a porky Pie.
OP suspected it was fake, still went ahead and purchased it, opened it up. OP deserves to loose their money
on โ05-10-2023 02:42 PM
pjs04 is not the OP.
They jumped on an existing thread.
But I agree, pjs04 should lose their money, and stop supporting these sellers.
on โ05-10-2023 02:47 PM
They also made the comment
'There's no obvious way for a casual buyer to know which drives are real'
But they happily and knowing support a dodgy seller selling fakes, helping them stay in business
So zero concern for the casual buyer
on โ05-10-2023 03:43 PM
@imastawka wrote:pjs04 is not the OP.
They jumped on an existing thread.
But I agree, pjs04 should lose their money, and stop supporting these sellers.
Ah yes, my mistake. I did mean pjs04
โ06-10-2023 11:28 AM - edited โ06-10-2023 11:29 AM
@pjs04 wrote:I put the micro-SD card in my own reader and the drive again came up as the same "SDK SSD" with capacity of 4882.8GB. It seems the card has firmware that identifies at as having severely exagerated capacity. I've yet to run additional tests so I'm not sure of the actual drive capacity, but I'm pretty certain the drive will start to overwrite itself once the real capacity is exhausted. A quick Google search of the large number printed on the card gave no results, but the "128" suggests a possible real capacity of as much as 128GB; which is a decent amount for a casual user to write to the drive as a test.
A no-brand micro-SD card with inflated capacity. It probably won't last long, not even for its true capacity.
You are not supposed to tamper with an item, but I would try to open a case anyway. The photos speak for themselves.
on โ06-10-2023 12:48 PM
@arctoph_49 wrote:
@pjs04 wrote:I put the micro-SD card in my own reader and the drive again came up as the same "SDK SSD" with capacity of 4882.8GB. It seems the card has firmware that identifies at as having severely exagerated capacity. I've yet to run additional tests so I'm not sure of the actual drive capacity, but I'm pretty certain the drive will start to overwrite itself once the real capacity is exhausted. A quick Google search of the large number printed on the card gave no results, but the "128" suggests a possible real capacity of as much as 128GB; which is a decent amount for a casual user to write to the drive as a test.
A no-brand micro-SD card with inflated capacity. It probably won't last long, not even for its true capacity.
You are not supposed to tamper with an item, but I would try to open a case anyway. The photos speak for themselves.
Yes the photo's do speak for themselves, the item was opened how can you justify opening a case. Sadly knowing Ebay they will win,