IF this was a scam...

[lizzy6107]

If this item / seller is a scam..

151503479687

( sold nothing in a year, used to sell window tints, website doesn't exist, etc etc)

and I bought this, and it never transpired, then of course I would get my money back through paypal / ebay's guarantee?

What would be in it for him?

It may be legit but I see lots of red flags..

Is it a safe bet and if not, what's the worst could happen to the buyers?

And wow, never seen such a long id history!

[4green2000]

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@lizzy6107 wrote:

If this item / seller is a scam..

151503479687

( sold nothing in a year, used to sell window tints, website doesn't exist, etc etc)

and I bought this, and it never transpired, then of course I would get my money back through paypal / ebay's guarantee?

What would be in it for him?

It may be legit but I see lots of red flags..

Is it a safe bet and if not, what's the worst could happen to the buyers?

And wow, never seen such a long id history!

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I dont even see 1 red flag..

[2106greencat]

Also,

In a scam situation the next message the buyer is likely to receive from the seller might be  "our paypal is broken" and ask for direct deposit into a bank account.

Very few buyers are as savvy as the one's we see here on the help boards and it is this naievity that the scammer is counting on.

Would only need 1 or 2 buyers to make a tidy sum, and off they go to start a new id and continue on........

[2106greencat]

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@4green2000 wrote:

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@lizzy6107 wrote:

If this item / seller is a scam..

151503479687

( sold nothing in a year, used to sell window tints, website doesn't exist, etc etc)

and I bought this, and it never transpired, then of course I would get my money back through paypal / ebay's guarantee?

What would be in it for him?

It may be legit but I see lots of red flags..

Is it a safe bet and if not, what's the worst could happen to the buyers?

And wow, never seen such a long id history!

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I dont even see 1 red flag..

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No action on account for 12 months (maybe hijacked)

Large price item would normally be pickup - contact seller, where you will no doubt get the paypal spiel.

Image used is in package screenshot from a website - most sellers would take image of item set up

Offers a 10 year warranty - they are not a registered distributor for this brand, and warranty's are not valid on eBay

Not saying this is a scam, not at all, but those are a few of the red flags I would recognise.

[thecatspjs]

?? warranties are not valid on eBay ??  what do you mean greencat ??

Warranties offered by Australian Businesses must be honored as per Consumer Law whether the goods were purchased in a B&M or on the internet including eBay.

[2106greencat]

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@thecatspjs wrote:

?? warranties are not valid on eBay ??  what do you mean greencat ??

Warranties offered by Australian Businesses must be honored as per Consumer Law whether the goods were purchased in a B&M or on the internet including eBay.

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Yes cats,

worded badly in my post - what I meant was

Offers a 10 year warranty - they are not a registered distributor for this brand, and warranty's of this kind are not valid on eBay

And while it is not true in the case of this listing as it is listed new - even a manufacturers warranty is often voided once an item has been used, and resold, unless they specifically supplied a transferable warranty, not many do.

[thecatspjs]

OK

Even if a Aust Business is not a registered distributer etc they still have to honor their warranty terms - regardless of the status of manufacturers guarantee.

Gettihg them to do that can be the difficult part.

[2106greencat]

Rubbish cats

If I used my business id on eBay and sold a second hand Kelvinator fridge that still had 12 months warranty - and it broke down 3 months later, (forgetting the new eBay 180 day carp) there is no way in the world Kelvinator would be legally expected to honour that warranty for the buyer as I am not a distributor for them and the contract was between me and Kelvinator, not the buyer.

[2106greencat]

Hey.....

are we  having a 'cat' fight -

sorry, just came to me, no filter sometimes

[cherry*135]

The sellers ebay account has been registered for 10 years... If it hasn't been hijacked, probably not a scam.

I did try and look at the web address given in the listing for the beds but it wasn't a valid link.

I would need to see that item in person, to try it out and see if I liked it.

If warranties are offered..the listing has to show a copy of the warranty or a link to it..

[thecatspjs]

It depends on the basis that you sold the fridge and the terms of the warranty you were offering.

If it was on the basis that is was still under "manufacturers warranty" and by doing so you implied in your advertisement that the buyer would have access to that warranty, then you as the seller would need to honour the warranty terms, as promised in your sales contract, whether the manufacturers warranty would be honored by the manufacturer is irrelevant.  

An Australian business can not mislead consumers about warranties under ACL.