Make Non Payers Pay

[sbw33333]

not sure about other sellers,but i am sick of the bidders who don't pay,i think its time ebay fines these people a minimal fee to go to the seller when they don't pay,my time should be covered for all the extra hassle that i have to go through,any one else?

[leader-of-the-band]

Maybe, but I can think of two situations that would make that pointless, & we would be back to where we are today with them not being shown.

Snipers & if you run 100% BIN's.

A possible 3rd candidate would be the big sellers who have ten's of dozens of sales or more a day. They would probably have to employ another person just to check each bidder, & I don't think many of them would find that feasibly cost effective.

I was not a member in the days when sellers could leave negs for buyers so I have not worked under any system other than the current system.

I have read the threads about sellers being able to leave negs and have often contributed my 2 cents worth.

I am not in favour of the proposition of 'sellers being able to leave negs for non-payers to warn other sellers' as I do not think that it would be workable.

My suggestion re bidding history was not intended as being a warning for other sellers so they could screen bidders, it was more as a minor deterrent to not paying i.e. bidders would know if they did not pay there would be a minor 'name-and-shame' aspect to not paying.

A few times I have made accidental bids for wrong amount on items.  I did not retract for a couple of reasons, one being that the number of bid retractions shows on 30 day bidding history for all to see, a bit of name-and-shame paranoia.  I have been fortunate that my wrong amount bids did not cost me as I did not win the items.  I am more careful when bidding, especially not hitting the ' , ' when bidding.

[falconsportspack]

My suggestion re bidding history was not intended as being a warning for other sellers so they could screen bidders, it was more as a minor deterrent to not paying i.e. bidders would know if they did not pay there would be a minor 'name-and-shame' aspect to not paying.

Ok mate, I see what you mean. 🙂

[the3coopers]

My suggestion re bidding history was not intended as being a warning for other sellers so they could screen bidders, it was more as a minor deterrent to not paying i.e. bidders would know if they did not pay there would be a minor 'name-and-shame' aspect to not paying.

Your logic only works with people who would not be Non-Payers anyway.

If somebody couldn't care enough to pay for something that they ordered, what makes you think that they would care about being named and shamed?

That was why the old "Neg The Buyer" never worked as a deterrent. The buyers who did the wrong thing couldn't care less that they'd done the wrong thing - morals and reputation means absolutely nothing to that kind of person.

[leader-of-the-band]

yeah . . . but Coop . . . . it might shut up those that want to neg non-payers.  Throw them a bone and they might be happy!

[the3coopers]

yeah . . . but Coop . . . . it might shut up those that want to neg non-payers.  Throw them a bone and they might be happy!

They used to have that bone to chew on, but instead they chose to bite the hand that fed them! :^O

[annies_fancy_dress]

E-Bay could always 'adjust' the feedback system to allow negatives to be left for NPB if they don't pay with PayPal, but another method of payment.  ?:|

That way E-bay/PayPal could ensure they get more fees, by discouraging bank deposit.

I wonder if that would make everyone happier???

I think it's ok the way it is now, not perfect, but no system is ever perfect.

Be careful what you wish for.

[the3coopers]

Good point, annies_fancy_dress - I recall this came up for discussion when the whole "Paypal Only" thing was going down a few years ago.

I seem to remember a certain PowerSeller and their "cohort" using that "proof of payment" thing as an argument as to why Sellers should "welcome in" the news of Paypal Only in ebay.com.au.

Of course, that PowerSeller might have been telling stories just to stir up trouble, and eBay never really intended to allow Sellers to benefit like that. Naming and shaming has never worked before, so I can't see how it could work now or in the future.

[bookkit4360]

i have had a person outbid someone else on three items not pay not answer emails and reported them through phone email live chat and they are still bidding on other peoples stuff go figure

[bookkit4360]

ebay should have  one month suspension for first offence total suspension second offence especially whenthey wont answere mails ebays policy states you are obligated to pay auction law is if you bid you pay if not you can be sued for all expenses and time wasted any auction has this stated so why not here its australian law i believe and ebay tells us we have to follow the law as sellers

[2106greencat]

@bookkit4360 - reported via live chat -

but have you opened NPB disputes? You can chat till the cow's come home, but until sellers start opening and following thru on NPB disputes buyers such as the one you have had will merrily go on doing what they are doing to seller's who 'allow' it. X-(