Postage of fakes

[fixnwear]

Hello to all,

I have read many times on the boards that if the fake is susspected  that one doesn't have to send it back as it's illegal!

What a load of cods wallop

How does a recipient of a fake item thinks it got to him/her in the first place?

Through the post, in most cases. Australia Post delivered it OK!

Post office doesn't care/wouldn't know what is fake, all parcels are sealed - and besides, it's not their job to police that sort of thing.

Advice given to buyers  here is so misleading, a great cop out - not having to go to any trouble of returning someone else's property, fake or not - if full refund is promised or even already issued.

I have also spoken to PP - their attitude is the same.

If the buyer claims a fake item and doesn't have anything official to support that claim - they'll have to return it to the seller in order to get the refund. If the seller agrees, of course.

They also are not willing to act as a police - to determine what is fake and what isn't - nor they are in too much of a hurry to tell anyone to distroy someone else's proerty rather than to post it back - as some sellers want the item back even if it is a fake.

Then the rights owner can take it up with them, not the PO or PP.

The only thing that the PO told me it would worry them is people posting flamable or otherwise hazardous items/material.

And finally, if the item has to be returned to an overseas country, going through the customs - again, no problem at all, singular items, or small quantities get here - and they can go back just  the same.

Customs guys wouldn't give it a time of day - unless is a shippping container load! (Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak)

[modestbods]

Thank you termalert, your apology is accepted. 

It seems it's not only Auspost pdf links that are allergic to the eBay boards, I couldn't get a normal Auspost link to stick either. Frustrating as all get out though isn't it? Whilst it looks like it posted fine after refreshing on your screen, when you leave the thread and look on the boards you discover the post has vanished.

[amber-eyed-girl]

Just for information, tonight I had trouble posting too. I could start a thread but not add to one.

My attempted posts did not include links, but the start a thread one, did.

All back to normal after about half an hour. There is definitely something up today.

[lalala-au]

There has been few raids of late I have seen on the news.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/25417341/rise-in-fake-products-sold/

http://www.indusage.com.au/matthew-mason-cox-med-rel-thousands-of-fake-make-up-items-seized/#

There were some raids in Melbourne too and toothbrushes that contained lead. Fake products can do much more harm than just effect profit margins of a company, years of hard work and gaining crediabilty and respect can go down the drain. As consumers are scared  because they can't tell the difference between the fake and the genuine without trying the contents sometimes, or not even know for some time later until medically detected (lead poisoning).

So destroying the fake item insteading of returning it is probably a good idea, as many sellers of fake items don't think they are causing much trouble. They think they are just ripping off big business and making some money for the little man. When in reality that seller could be handling or inhaling or even using harmful products and also harming others.

[cq_tech]

You've just reminded me of a terrible incident in China only a year or two ago in which a baby formula manufacturer was producing counterfeit products which unfortunately contained lethal amounts of a particularly nasty substance and as a result a large number of young babies tragically died.

I'll have a look through google shortly and see if I can find some documentary evidence to support the above, but you may have even heard about it yourself as it was such a terrible incident that it made headlines worldwide at the time.

[kylies*swap*cards*]

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@cq_tech wrote:
You've just reminded me of a terrible incident in China only a year or two ago in which a baby formula manufacturer was producing counterfeit products which unfortunately contained lethal amounts of a particularly nasty substance and as a result a large number of young babies tragically died.

I'll have a look through google shortly and see if I can find some documentary evidence to support the above, but you may have even heard about it yourself as it was such a terrible incident that it made headlines worldwide at the time.

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Was that the melamine in baby formula?  I remember that because all the au stock of baby formula disappeared almost overnight from our supermarkets because China bought it all.  We were on rations, you could only buy one or two tins at a time.

[cq_tech]

Yes, that's the one - melamine. I couldn't remember what they'd put in it. A bloody terrible business which proves beyond any doubt that some fake and counterfeit products are not quite as harmless as many people would like to believe.

[wilk1149]

Technically the melamine wasn't in the baby formula because it was fake it was used to provide a sufficient protein level at an incredibly cheap price for the manufacturer. Unless you are incapable of producing your own milk for your child you are risking its future health by feeding it anything that is made in a factory. Having been diagnosed as a type two diabetic four years ago I now eat no processed food. I have lost twenty kilos and still do not have to take any medication to control my blood sugar

[van_werkhoven]

Yep, I had to switch my 4mo off her goat milk formula because it became, simply, unavailable. Her tummy didn't take it too well in the beginning but she adjusted to standard cows milk formula after a few weeks... I could not find the goats milk anywhere for a few weeks. And it was rations for a long while after that too. Aldi managed to keep their formula in stock, which is what I ended up buying.  

[i-love-my-sheep]

Looks like all the missing messages just arrived!!!!

[2106greencat]

Sheesh

regardless of back and forward....agree or disagree with the interpretation of AP's guidelines.......what does it matter??

In the case of selling/receiving 'fakes' on eBay....

paypal rule that they do not have to be returned.

End of story, good enuff, as in general eBay land does not really adhere to any real 'laws' as such, but this particular one I agree with.

edited....not replying to you sheep, just hit the nearest reply button, amazed at what some people can argue over LOL