Sellers : Gain A Voice

[cmcoins2000]

For Years eBay's Mantra has been ' We are a Platform - We are a Venue.

Not anymore.

Today it is a Fee Guzzling, Dictorial, Judgemental monster, totally lacking in any Integrity

We the Sellers are held to Ransom for the pitiful little Symbols & Icons they offer for complying with the 'Policies'.

For the most part we Sellers are dealing with our customers with Consideration & Integrity.

Our Feedback is Testament to this.

There is always going to be an element of dishonest traders as there is everywhere.

Most of whom will not & do not last long.

To Comply we are directed to offer 'Free Postage'.

This is not China - our Govt. does not offer this to encourage trade - we pay a hefty cost for Postage.

To offer 'Free Postage' when the cost is recouped in the sale is not only dishonest it is illegal.

eBay do not offer the honest option of 'Postage Included'.

This is Australia - in a lot of cases same day or 1 day posting is nigh on impossible to say nothing of being non cost effective.

 A 30 day money back guarantee is boardering on the ridiculous for most of our items.

Then we come to August 20th & the 'Defect' System.

This system is so Flawed - so Lacking in Reason - it beggars belief.

For whatever reason these so called 'Defects' are given & no matter the outcome between buyer & seller the 'Defects' stand.

This is the only country in the world without the even playing field of mutual Feedback.

Ours is totally stacked for the Buyer.

Without Sellers there are no Buyers.

eBay has stated a buyer not happy with a transaction is not likely to return to the site.

What Rubbish.

We have all had experiences we would rather forget but purchase again & again.

My Lone Voice will be heard on 20th August & on 21st August & on 22nd August & on 23rd of August.

My holiday Settings will be turned on - my items not seen - eBay will receive no income from me for this time.

My hip pocket is willing to take the hit & I gain a voice.

IMAGINE if it were not a LONE VOICE.

[iamanark]

Quote .... "My holiday Settings will be turned on - my items not seen - eBay will receive no income from me for this time"

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Helen ... I'm with you

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My holiday setting for both stores will be tuned "ON"

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As for "cutting off one's nose to spite your face" ... that is absolutely wrong ... it is called a protest ... a peaceful protest, that if more people were less selfish, and joined it, might just help make positive changes for their fellow "members"

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And as for "eBay butters my bread", I think you have that ace about ... you butter ebay's bread, and line the pockets of their shareholders (and now with the immoral FVF on postage, even more so)

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And as for Joe Croce ... who is he, and yes, the quote is becoming very boring ... you should try and be a little more original and come up with something new

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It is not over until the fat lady posts

[i-love-my-sheep]

Why shouldn't the shareholders make money, that's why they bought shares. If it's that important, why don't you buy shares in eBay? Then you might be able to have a say, or at the very least, make a few extra bucks.  

I still want to know how you are going to contact and convince millions of sellers worldwide to join your protest? Please tell me, because I really want to know. There are only a p00fteenth of sellers who visit these forums, are you going to go through every single listing and invite sellers to join your protest? Maybe get all their email addresses and send a bulk email? There are laws in this country that say you can't do that.

Enjoy your protest kiddies. If that's what makes you feel better about yourselves, go for it. Why don't you go and storm Parliament House? After all, everything that is wrong in the world is the fault of the current Australian Government at the time, so maybe having your 2 person silent protest there might see the changes you so desire.

The other option is, if you don't like the way eBay does things, leave. No-one is holding a gun to anyone's head to sell here. EBay wouldn't give 2 hoots whether you left and neither would any of the shareholders. It's not going to affect their dividends by even one cent.

[i-love-my-sheep]

PS: your signature is getting rather old too. Maybe you should think about updating it occasionally.

[iamanark]

Quote … “EBay wouldn't give 2 hoots whether you left and neither would any of the shareholders. It's not going to affect their dividends by even one cent”

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Ah, Mrs Chook, that is where you are completely wrong

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That is why there was a recent Board Room challenge to separate Paypal from Ebay

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Admittedly it failed, but as many shareholders said .. We lost the battle but have not lost the war … and will continue their challenge !

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The shareholders are so concerned about the way ebay is going and in the process dragging the good name of Paypal down

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Paypal has the potential and ability to become the largest of their kind in the world, but its progress is being held back by being associated directly with ebay

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So the Shareholders are concerned …

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The loss of ebay in Japan was a major blow, and it is possible Germany may follow suit … there is a lot of dissent in many areas of the world .. our Kiwi cousins are another example

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So, Mrs Chook, the shareholders are concerned, very concerned ! … (There are not Board Room Challenges for no reason)

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It is not over until the fat lady posts

[cmcoins2000]

Kiddies - Indeed.

I was around when Israel became a State.

I was around in 1963 when JFK was assassinated.

I was around in 1969 when Jerome Grossman called for a General Strike.

This became the Vietnam Moratorium - one Lone Voice.

Perhaps you should spend more time seeing what is going on in the big world -

Academic researchers say they've uncovered a "security breach" and a "privacy flaw" on eBay due to the way the feedback system works.

"The eBay Feedback System as currently implemented has serious privacy flaws. When sellers leave feedback, buyers' purchase histories are exposed through no action of their own. In this paper, we describe and execute a series of attacks, leveraging the feedback system to reveal users' potentially sensitive purchases."

Etc, Etc, Etc,

I will have my 2 person protest - thank you iamanark - and - I really don't give 2 hoots what you think on the matter.

So go feed the chooks.

[davewil1964]

So we have now got to the point where you admit you are a one-person protest.

As most of us having been trying to tell you.

nark - if I thought your opinion relevant... Jim Croche was a brilliant singer/songwriter and I have no intention of changing my sig. Especially not to one as fatuous as yours.

[chameleon54]

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@ilovemychooks wrote:

I still want to know how you are going to contact and convince millions of sellers worldwide to join your protest? Please tell me, because I really want to know. There are only a p00fteenth of sellers who visit these forums, are you going to go through every single listing and invite sellers to join your protest? Maybe get all their email addresses and send a bulk email? There are laws in this country that say you can't do that.

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I hear you can buy ALL of ebays seller email addresses from hackers, going cheap  ........OOPS,   SORRY, wasnt that helpfull  ?

[lousbloomingarden]

Good onya Helen. Its true your SQUEEK! wont make a diffence but MANY squeeks would . Im all for joining the squeeks. When I was a union delegate in the 70s all us squeeks got together and over powered a Lion.

[cmcoins2000]

The biggest problem I have selling this way (eBay) is - people do not read.

I have customers who email saying the item was not 'as big' as they thought or it was 'gold' not 'silver'.

All of this can be found in my description.

You have arrived at the point where I admit I am a one-person protest - read again I think Lone Voice says it all.

'As most of us have been trying to tell you' - that would be all two.

You weren't asked in any way to change your signature especially not to one as 'fatuous', 'purposeless' as mine.

You do not find my opinion relevant but you can't help sticking your 2 cents worth to say nothing.

Given my era Jim Croce (spelt correctly) was a part of my 20's and very much admired.

Still looking for my signature - in fact I cannot even remember what it was - never having used one.

[cmcoins2000]

Thank you.

Though I have never been a member of a union I think 'Solidarity Squeeks' to the same tune would work.