on 29-11-2012 08:10 AM
I believe every one is equal, as UN told us.
And I believe what if buyer piss me off by not-paying and not-answering my messages I have right to let know everyone about it.
eBay has different opinion and runs a war against sellers.
Part of war - if I open case against dodgy buyer I do not have any feedback option, but POSITIVE one.
So I do not give any feedback to buyers at all. What is point?
It looks like election in Soviet Union: you could vote for any person to became MP, but there was only one name in list.
USSR gone, but eBay still here.
I propose action: NO FEEDBACKS to buyers.
We want equal rights, we want choice.
on 29-11-2012 08:37 AM
What a lot of nonsense; buyers and sellers will never be "equal". Buyers send you their money and at that point you have both, their money and the item, they have to trust that you will send the item, that you will send it in such a way in will arrive in one piece. That is why sellers' FB is important.
Seller has a great capacity to scam buyers; the worst buyer can do is to make false INR claim, but you can protect yourself against that by posting with trackable means; and in any case you will never know if the claim was false or not. And yes some people do not pay, but if you go through NPB case they get a strike, much better that leaving NEG.
Nobody is dictating anything to you; you have a choice to sign that you agree to eBay rules, or go elsewhere.
on 29-11-2012 08:50 AM
Even though, as those who knew me will verify, I’m not adverse to giving delinquent buyers a well deserved earful, I simply can’t see the point in eBay reintroducing negative feedback for buyers; if for no other reason than it doesn’t serve an practical purpose.
In fact, if I had my way I would get eBay to remove all forms of feedback for buyers for exactly the same reason; it serves no practical purpose and the time spent giving it could be put to better use.
on 29-11-2012 09:46 AM
Well TB it is not often you and I are on the same page but in this we are in the same sentence :^O
OP you obviously weren't around over 4 years ago when sellers could give out negs. It achieved nothing.
Many of them were left by carp sellers annoyed because they had received and they then blackmailed members into mutually withdrawing and those members who weren't sensible enough to use different ids for selling or who actually thought buyer feedback meant anything fell for it.
Even if a buyer had dozens of negs unless they bid before the end how would you stop them? You couldn't nor could you prevent them using BIN.
Many sellers also shot themselves in the foot by leaving the feedback while their blood was up and left comments that only made them look bad so ebay is effectively saving them from themselves by not allowing them to do so.
There was also no way to blanket block those who didn't pay more than once as you can now, as long as sellers use the dispute process correctly and issue strikes this system works far better than leaving negs ever did. I get very few non payers, less as a percentage than I did under the old system.
on 29-11-2012 12:15 PM
Sorry OP - what kazumi, tallbearded and pj said
As frustrting as it is, as soon as sellers start following the procedures to give buyers a strike, other sellers will be protected.
As for leaving feedback for a buyer? Totally up to you, though why you would punish all for the actions of the many is beyond me.
Kind of like a buyer giving all sellers neutral coz a couple of sellers did the wrong thing 😞
on 29-11-2012 12:19 PM
Totally up to you, though why you would punish all for the actions of the many few is beyond me.
on 29-11-2012 12:23 PM
on 29-11-2012 02:57 PM
Like everybody else said.
Who is "We"? Nobody here. Maybe those who don't know how the system works, in which case the site map is a valuable tool.
Please don't assume all, indeed any but a few, sellers have the same opinion as you.
on 29-11-2012 04:28 PM
I've seen no evidence of a war by ebay against sellers. If things were that bad surely there would be less sellers.
You'll be better off opening a sensible thread in future instead of an overdramatic thread. Isn't that right Colonal PJ ?
on 29-11-2012 04:43 PM
I believe every one is equal, as UN told us.
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We want equal rights, we want choice.
Everbody is equal. We all have the right to be both a buyer and/or a seller. You have recieved 86 feedback as a buyer so I guess you already know that 🙂
When the UN talks of equal Human Rights I don't think they had eBay feedback in mind.