Sellers must be equal with buyers - WE WANT NEGATIVE FEEDBACK OPTION!

[pak334]

I believe every one is equal, as UN told us.

And I believe  what if buyer piss me off by not-paying and not-answering my messages I have right to let know everyone about it.

eBay has different opinion and runs a war against sellers.

Part of war - if I open case against dodgy buyer I do not have any feedback option, but POSITIVE one.

So I do not give any feedback to buyers at all. What is point?

It looks like election in Soviet Union: you could vote for any person to became MP, but there was only one name in list.

USSR gone, but eBay still here.

I propose action: NO FEEDBACKS to buyers.

We want equal rights, we want choice.

[godspeedpluto]

Will neg feedback stop buyers from not paying? No it won't.

Does neg feedback stop sellers from ripping people off? No it doesn't.

Even as a buyer, I can see a good argument for sellers being able to leave negative feedback. I follow the rules, pay immediately and have never cancelled a sale, yet my 100% positive doesn't show this, it's essentially just a receipt pinned to my front door so everyone can see what I've bought. I really don't need to be congratulated for handing over money in exchange for a product. The problem lies with the feedback total being calculated on sales and purchases, making all transactions equal, regardless of value or direction.

It seems like plenty of sellers (and buyers) are getting fed up with this three ring circus, and like you say it's still great for a quick sale. But to be fair, saying sellers are the ones hit with fees, doesn't really acknowledge that it is the customer who is ultimately paying this fee. All businesses have overheads, if those overheads are making a business unsustainable or uncompetitive, you find another marketplace. But sellers here can't, because you can't sell an eBay business or move it elsewhere. Sellers only really have a temporary share in an unstable franchise. I certainly wouldn't be trusting my livelihood to this fickle ringmaster.

[*new2vintage]

Any seller who is unhappy with ebay can move to another auction site if they don't want to sell much and want to watch their stock gather dust.

[foxette-in-sox]

Pak 334,(It looks like election in Soviet Union: you could vote for any person to became MP, but there was only one name in list.)You are wrong,we didn't have to vote if we don't want,here funny,if you not vote you will pay money.....so people just put tic on,so they don't have to pay,also (USSR gone, but eBay still here.)not for all gone USSR,its just split because was greedy,and everybody want they pie,about feedback,yep sometimes i feel also not fair, because buyer can live bad feedback,but seller not,i have about 5 like this costumers,but other costumers very good,yep not all live feedback i didn't receive about 180 feedback,but my costumers very good,and thanks for all my costumers from me and my 2 little kids,God bless you guys.

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[leader-of-the-band]

Will neg feedback stop buyers from not paying? No it won't.

Does neg feedback stop sellers from ripping people off? No it doesn't.

negative seller feedback stops sellers ripping me off.  If I am interested in an item I look at seller feedback.  I look at the recent positives as well as the neuts and negs for the past year.

[austeam]

I've been selling on eBay for more than 10yrs and I still haven't worked out how to guess which of the 6 million registered users is going to be the one to purchase from me.  So what would be the point of having neg feedback and showing unpaid item strikes if we sellers don't get to pick and chose our buyers?

Sure, you can block the buyer with 2 NPB strikes, and if you have a bad transaction you can block that buyer.....but there are new buyers registering all of the time. I have had several buyers actually say "I tried to buy on my other ID but it was blocked so I had to change IDs" 😮  So I figured I will let it go through and see what happens and so far all but one of them paid.

[viewmont1071]

Rather than negative feedback ebay needs to initiate an automatic $ NON paying bidder  comment on a members feedback when they renege on the promise to pay when an unpaid item strike is issued by ebay.

This will train (and appease) some members who think it unfair that they cannot leave the "mark" on a buyers feedback and leave negative positives to open  non payment cases.

Simple........ nobody needs to check feedback if they do not want to, more cases opened more npb blocked ....simple

Posters can only guess whether most neg pos leavers open disputes however if the "mark" $ NON paying bidder was left then there would be no guessing.

One thing I do know serial INR scammers hang out like pluto's pup producers when a helpful member points them out and comes in here for a whinge and even those that think negative feedback and buyer feedback is useless nearly bust a poofle valve adding said miscreant to their blocked bidder list manually after they have manually reviewed said members feedback.

Would you like some links to those threads to remind yourselves???

[viewmont1071]

http://community.ebay.com.au/topic/Selling/Sellers-Able-Leave/500153667?start=24#msg504983888

So rather than write it all again just click on the link............

[viewmont1071]

Some posters will tell you that the reason ebay removed the sellers ability to leave negative feedback was because they needed to quell retalitory negative feedback slanging matches between members because it was scaring the buyers away....

How could generic feeback left by ebay $ non paying bidder after an UID was recorded scare "buyers" away?

It appears to me that it would highlight non payers who have the ability to open a new account when the old one is marked.

It would instil confidence in the sellers that do not have confidence in ebays hidden strike system because the process is visual and can be validated.

The only reason I can think of that ebay does not adopt such a system is that they do not in fact always issue strikes or remove them at a buyers whim????

Can anybody think of another reason why ebay is not prepared to visually reinforce their strike system with a generic comment upon handing them out?????

... non payers are not buyers...they are non payers

[phorum_junkie*]

If leaving negs is an effective deterrent for non payers can somebody explain to me why I used to have three times as many on a certain other auction site where you could leave negs even though I sold less than a tenth of the items I sold on ebay?