Why does eBay prevent sellers who don't get paid, from leaving negative feedback on the buyer

[crispyoz]

The whole process is ridiculous. I set an item for immediate payment, spend my time negotiating with the buyer who wants it cheaper, he fails to pay. I have to wait 4 days to open the unpaid item case, 4 more days to close the case so now my item has been off the market for 8 days. So where is the negative feeback on this guy's account? Im not permitted to leave negative feedback on his account so when other sellers receive offers from the scammer, they have no warning that this is this guys game. 

These scams are killing Gumtree, they agree to purchase then turn up to pick up the item and try to renegotiate. 

eBay needs to allow sellers to leave negative feedback on buyers that waste their time and try to scam sellers. But I guess it doesn't look good for eBay if all these buyers have negative feedback.

[bundymods · Accepted solution]

Ebay Only Protects it Buyer's and dont give A **bleep** about it Seller's.

Ebay Scam you more than the Buyers do.

1 :Charge High Prices For Final Fees

2 Charge you again on Your Postage Cost's

3 Then you also Get Charged a Third time From Palpay which is Still owned and operated by Ebay

As a Seller you cant Leave Negative Feed Back.

You Cant report a Buyer as you wont get any Where waiste of time

There is No option to open a Case for a Return ,Even if you Do they still Refund the Buyer and call the Seller a Liar

Appeal a Case ,Another waiste of Time as They Always Reject it in Favour of the Buyer.

The way Ebay are Treating There Sellers ,It will become a Thing of the Past ,As there will be no Seller's Left

So they can have there Buyer's left with nothing to Buy

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

will not happen.

The feedback system is flawed, but letting sellers leave negatives would make it even more flawed.

When sellers could leave negatives for buyers there were sellers who would neg a buyer who negged them.  This t!t-for-tat negative giving undermines the feedback system as buyers are less inclined to leave a negative for fear of receiving one back.

[kopenhagen5]

If you closed an unpaid item case on the buyer, he will have received a strike on the account and 2 or more strikes sees him not being able to bid or buy from anyone with blocks in place.

Just add any buyers who don't pay to your BBL if you don't want to deal with them again.

The feedback system doesn't stop buyers from bidding or buying even with a string of negs.

[padi*0409]

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@bundymods wrote:

Ebay Only Protects it Buyer's and dont give A **bleep** about it Seller's.

Ebay Scam you more than the Buyers do.

1 :Charge High Prices For Final Fees

2 Charge you again on Your Postage Cost's

3 Then you also Get Charged a Third time From Palpay which is Still owned and operated by Ebay

As a Seller you cant Leave Negative Feed Back.

You Cant report a Buyer as you wont get any Where waiste of time

There is No option to open a Case for a Return ,Even if you Do they still Refund the Buyer and call the Seller a Liar

Appeal a Case ,Another waiste of Time as They Always Reject it in Favour of the Buyer.

The way Ebay are Treating There Sellers ,It will become a Thing of the Past ,As there will be no Seller's Left

So they can have there Buyer's left with nothing to Buy

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peewee please STOP posting incorrect information on the boards.

1. Paypal is not owned by eBay and hasn't been for a couple of years at least.

2. If a seller opens an unpaid item dispute and the buyer still fails to pay, the buyer will get a strike on their account and any sensible seller who has their buyer blocks set up won't be troubled by non-payers.

3. Fees on eBay and Paypal are pretty reasonable, try listing goods through an auction house or in a newspaper if you don't believe me.

[imastawka]

I set an item for immediate payment, spend my time negotiating with the buyer who wants it cheaper,

If you had actually set your item for immediate payment, then they would have paid.

There is no negotiating.

[everard6920]

On Air BnB if a host cancels the stay after a guest has paid the deposit, an automated message appears on the host's profile that says, "So-and-so cancelled the stay X days before arrival". They also can't re-list that property for X amount of days.

While I agree that negative feedback shouldn't be left for buyers, I think an automated system such as one the above could work for NPBs. In lieu of the feedback comment, simply "[buyer] did not pay for the item". Wouldn't really be any use for BINs, but could certainly help for auctions.

What really annoys me is the privatised buyer IDs on other sellers' feedback profiles. I used to routinely patrol my competitors' feedback profiles and block anyone who seemed problematic, but I can't do that any more.

What's the point of having feedback at all if it isn't transparent?

[x3n0m]

1. Paypal is not owned by eBay and hasn't been for a couple of years at least.

JUst the same inner circle of Board members is all .. a cynical exercise at best to pacify some of the board memebers who wanted to ditch their ebay shares (rats from a sinking ship perhaps)

2. If a seller opens an unpaid item dispute and the buyer still fails to pay, the buyer will get a strike on their account and any sensible seller who has their buyer blocks set up won't be troubled by non-payers.

There are other transgressions by buyers aside from non payment that should be dealt with by negative feedback to alert sellers to the potential of fraud and all manner of other indignities ..

3. Fees on eBay and Paypal are pretty reasonable, try listing goods through an auction house or in a newspaper if you don't believe me.

There is nothing reasonable about a fee on postage!! .. it shows that our ACCC are disgusting traitors is all .. We had other more reasonable ecommerce venues but our ACCC has allowed the the yanks to trample any prospect of a viable Australian competitor .. our government wants to turn the population of this country into slaves for their American Chamber of Commerce friends .. hence we see the removal of award penalty rates for hospitality workers etc (the biggest beneficiary of this foul rort was McDonalds) .. those in the know call it the McDonalds tax .. just like student visas which we call 711visas ..

[padi*0409]

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@x3n0m wrote:

1. Paypal is not owned by eBay and hasn't been for a couple of years at least.

JUst the same inner circle of Board members is all .. a cynical exercise at best to pacify some of the board memebers who wanted to ditch their ebay shares (rats from a sinking ship perhaps)

Nope, some Paypal board members were on the eBay board originally, but there are none that I can see that are presently on both boards.

https://investor.paypal-corp.com/directors.cfm

https://www.ebayinc.com/our-company/our-leaders/

2. If a seller opens an unpaid item dispute and the buyer still fails to pay, the buyer will get a strike on their account and any sensible seller who has their buyer blocks set up won't be troubled by non-payers.

There are other transgressions by buyers aside from non payment that should be dealt with by negative feedback to alert sellers to the potential of fraud and all manner of other indignities ..

Negs for buyers didn't work when it was allowed, it just resulted in retaliatory negs from sellers, and usually sellers didn't have time to check buyers feedback before geing able to block them or cancel their bids.

3. Fees on eBay and Paypal are pretty reasonable, try listing goods through an auction house or in a newspaper if you don't believe me.

There is nothing reasonable about a fee on postage!! .. it shows that our ACCC are disgusting traitors is all .. We had other more reasonable ecommerce venues but our ACCC has allowed the the yanks to trample any prospect of a viable Australian competitor .. our government wants to turn the population of this country into slaves for their American Chamber of Commerce friends .. hence we see the removal of award penalty rates for hospitality workers etc (the biggest beneficiary of this foul rort was McDonalds) .. those in the know call it the McDonalds tax .. just like student visas which we call 711visas .

I will agree that postage fees aren't exactly fair, but to a certain extent sellers brought it on themselves by listing for $1.00 and charging $100.00 for postage. But that doesn't negate the fact that compared to auction houses or newspaper ads  fees/charges are significantly higher than eBay fees and charges.

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[x3n0m]

1. Paypal is not owned by eBay and hasn't been for a couple of years at least.

JUst the same inner circle of Board members is all .. a cynical exercise at best to pacify some of the board memebers who wanted to ditch their ebay shares (rats from a sinking ship perhaps)

Nope, some Paypal board members were on the eBay board originally, but there are none that I can see that are presently on both boards.

https://investor.paypal-corp.com/directors.cfm

https://www.ebayinc.com/our-company/our-leaders/

Nope, some Paypal board members were on the eBay board originally, but there are none that I can see that are presently on both boards.

.. yes it was simplistic to say the board members are the same (I admit they have done a wonderful job of disguising who is pulling their strings but I can certainly detect a very sinister undercurrent) .. they do their evil deeds by proxy smoke and mirrors etc etc (investment groups) and the affiliation between ebay and paypal is officially over about 2020 (sometime?) .. anyway I can probably talk till I am blue in the face and it will do nothing to disuade hard core believers who can see nothing wrong with international corporate rorters pillaging entire economies while their respective governments look the other way .. in the final analysis; I see at the highest levels of our fascist government a culture of victim blaming emerging so as to justify the incessant greed of corporate swindlers whilst decrying the basic human rights of the hoi polloi ..

https://investor.paypal-corp.com/directors.cfm
https://investor.paypal-corp.com/directors.cfm

https://www.investors.com/news/technology/heres-why-paypals-ties-to-former-parent-ebay-bear-watching...