on 09-07-2016 06:19 AM
is anyone on one of these , we are eligible as we send around 30 parcels a day however we dont know if its worth all the time and effort to set up a account and change our postal procedures, we use the ebay post coupons and all of our stuff is either 500g parcels or 3kg parcels so the ebay its either 7.15 or 11.70
aust post wont tell me what kind of rate i will pay untill i apply so i was hoping someone would able to shed some light on what kind of rates are available ?
on 09-07-2016 02:42 PM
I looked into opening an Australia Post account a few years ago. I was told that as an eBay seller (deemed by them to be high risk) I would have to give them $1000 surity up front & it would stay in 'trust' for the duration of my account life. I pretty much told them to 'shove it'!
11-07-2016 10:28 AM - edited 11-07-2016 10:30 AM
If you mean eParcel contract they usually tell you what rates you will get before you sign it. At least I received all rates before I did it.
If you sell under 500g products packed and you do not need a signature on delivery do not sign for it. You will loose with eParcel because they use both cubic and actual weight even for under 500g parcels. That means that you will pay as for over 500g weight if package is bigger than 500g in cubic.
And they need to be quite small boxes to be less than 500g in cubic.
However if you sell a lot of heavy products eParcel offers good rates, I have seen savings on postage from $10 to $70 for a single parcel with eParcel on heavy items comparing with their standard over a counter services.
The only two things I do not like apart from using cubic measurements for under 500g actual weight is their express service sometime longer than their regular service. And the second they won't let you do eParcel international shipping unless you are going to send 1000 parcels overseas in one year.
on 12-07-2016 10:57 PM
I don't mean to argue or anything, but may I suggest a counter opinion to your comments...
Firstly, I have had an eParcel account for coming up 3 years now, and absolutely love it. so this is not heresay, but experience.
I am not sure what you were told, but the guy that set me up stated that if I am sending out a satchel bag, (which I buy the polymailer bags from eb packaging in the same sizes as 500g, 3kg and 5kg) they told me to enter it as 1 x 1 x 1, which gives a 500g cubic volume.This is what I do, as almost 95% of everything I sell is under 500g. It then charges me a rate far less than a 500g satchel through Auspost.
Have you tried doing that? Perhaps you would find your issue to be solved...
The other thing, is that I find my express eparcel is almost ALWAYS there overnight, and that includes going to far out in WA. For one of my stores, I would say that 40-50% of my customers are regional people working on remote farms or in the mines. Being that I can send a 500g bag express through eParcel for only $8 to anywhere in Aus, I advertise my items as standard postage, and then UPGRADE EVERY ITEM by putting it on Express!
This has made a Tremendous diference to my feedback, as people will generally leave a comment relating to the fast shipping. I even had 1 guy call me on the phone, telling me it was the best ebay deal he had ever done... (He purchased it around lunch time, and was in NSW somewhere, and I got it in the post that afternoonn, and he had it by breakfast. He couldn't believe he had his item in less than 18 hours after purchsing it.)
In regards to internationl. They may have changed it, but I only signed a contract in October last year, and it was a minimum of $3000 spend in International Parcels per 12 months. So if you don't have the international volume, you won't be able to get it. However, if you do. IT"S AWESOME!!! I can't believe how Cheap I can send stuff internationaly now!
In my opinon I recommend the eParcel.
On top of that, the comment about the savings on larger items I heartily agree. I had a hunting store selling compound bows, that I have since sold, and I sent a bow to WA in the first week while setting up my account but it wasn't ready, and had to go over the counter rate. Cost $78. I sent the exact same bow, to the exact same postcode 3 weeks later for $18
Hope this helps.
Daniel
on 12-07-2016 11:49 PM
Another advantage of eparcel that as long as you post to the address on the Paypal transaction page you are fully covered by the Paypal Seller Protection Policy including for credit card chargebacks.
on 13-07-2016 12:03 PM
@lepl2013 wrote:
I am not sure what you were told, but the guy that set me up stated that if I am sending out a satchel bag, (which I buy the polymailer bags from eb packaging in the same sizes as 500g, 3kg and 5kg) they told me to enter it as 1 x 1 x 1, which gives a 500g cubic volume.This is what I do, as almost 95% of everything I sell is under 500g. It then charges me a rate far less than a 500g satchel through Auspost.
Have you tried doing that? Perhaps you would find your issue to be solved...
The other thing, is that I find my express eparcel is almost ALWAYS there overnight, and that includes going to far out in WA. For one of my stores, I would say that 40-50% of my customers are regional people working on remote farms or in the mines. Being that I can send a 500g bag express through eParcel for only $8 to anywhere in Aus, I advertise my items as standard postage, and then UPGRADE EVERY ITEM by putting it on Express!
This has made a Tremendous diference to my feedback, as people will generally leave a comment relating to the fast shipping. I even had 1 guy call me on the phone, telling me it was the best ebay deal he had ever done... (He purchased it around lunch time, and was in NSW somewhere, and I got it in the post that afternoonn, and he had it by breakfast. He couldn't believe he had his item in less than 18 hours after purchsing it.)
In regards to internationl. They may have changed it, but I only signed a contract in October last year, and it was a minimum of $3000 spend in International Parcels per 12 months. So if you don't have the international volume, you won't be able to get it. However, if you do. IT"S AWESOME!!! I can't believe how Cheap I can send stuff internationaly now!
In my opinon I recommend the eParcel.
On top of that, the comment about the savings on larger items I heartily agree. I had a hunting store selling compound bows, that I have since sold, and I sent a bow to WA in the first week while setting up my account but it wasn't ready, and had to go over the counter rate. Cost $78. I sent the exact same bow, to the exact same postcode 3 weeks later for $18
Hope this helps.
Daniel
Thank Daniel for your comments. I do not think it is right what you are doing with satchels. Was it your account manager who recomended it to you? We as senders must enter real measurements no matter what type of packaging we use. If we enter wrong sizes we can be billed to pay extra and probably will be fined as well. My account manager is slow in actions but he has made it clear that there nothing Austpost can do if actual weight is less than 500g but gubic one is over. Unless you are at the top level for their rates cubic measuremts will be always talking into account to calculate an actual postage rate. He may be wrong but he told it to me a few times over the phone and email. I have dropped it since and just use a regular service in situations like this
The same applies to international. I expected to be allowed to use international postage with eParcel when I signed a contract with AusPost but I was not connected to it. When I asked them to connect me the account manager wanted me to confrim that I would be sending at least 1000 parcel overseas per year. I do not have so many orders from overseas(I do not even think it is close to $1000 a year) so they did not connect me to international.
In regards to express, I have a regular customer from NSW(I am in Brisbane) so she is about 300-400 km way from me, She usually places orders with regular post but sometimes she asks for express. There were a situation when one order was posted regular post and another order was posted with express the same day. She received regular postage one within 72 hours while it took almost 4 days for express to be delivered. That is a huge difference in time considering express post costed her 2.5 times more than regular. May be it was just a temporarly glitch and her express parcel stuck somewhere but sometimes you can even see transit time difference for express and regular on eParcel website not in a favour of express. Some time they show that express will take the same time as regular, in few cases they may even tell you that express will take more time than regular. It is usally for remote areas where express will take longer.
I just do not want to risk it anymore. Some of my customers need products for events and they need it asap. So whether it is glitch or not I will be the one who they will blame if they don't get them fast.
13-07-2016 12:15 PM - edited 13-07-2016 12:17 PM
@jensmanchester-australia wrote:Another advantage of eparcel that as long as you post to the address on the Paypal transaction page you are fully covered by the Paypal Seller Protection Policy including for credit card chargebacks.
Not sure how it can protect you from a chargeback as it is mostly between cc bank and Paypal and Paypal just recovers their chargeback fee from a bank from a seller. CC Bank does not care about deliveries they deal only with authorised transaction.
However it will protect you for sure from an "INR" dispute. I had a customer once who said she did not receive anything while I could see it was delivered and signed. She was also saying that she did not sign for it while Auspost got a signature from that delivery. She opened a dispute and lost after I sent the signture scan to Paypal. So it really helps to deal with cases like this.
The only thng here is you do not need to have an eParcel contract to protect you this way. You can always add a SOD to a regular parcel. For my rates with eParcel it will be about $1.50 difference between eParcel that comes with SOD and regular postage over a counter with SOD added.
on 13-07-2016 04:48 PM
Just as a comment - my experience with an eParcel account is exactly the same as Daniel. Satchels go as 1x1x1, so no cubing, (I was talked through this process by my account manager when I starrted the account), and actual weight is charged as opposed to 3kg flat rate - most of my parcels are around the 1kg mark. Also, as SOD is included. it ads up to about a 30% discount overall.
Ditto the comments about delivery times - customers frequently comment in feedback about how fast items arrive. I don't do overseas posting so can't comment there.
I've had 1 buyer in all that time who contacted me about an INR, Aust Post emailed me a copy of the signature, she stated that it wasn't her (I believed her) and Paypal refunded her happily.
I have been very happy with the eParcel account.
Marina.
on 13-07-2016 05:20 PM
@ozstockman wrote:
@jensmanchester-australia wrote:Another advantage of eparcel that as long as you post to the address on the Paypal transaction page you are fully covered by the Paypal Seller Protection Policy including for credit card chargebacks.
Not sure how it can protect you from a chargeback as it is mostly between cc bank and Paypal and Paypal just recovers their chargeback fee from a bank from a seller. CC Bank does not care about deliveries they deal only with authorised transaction.
However it will protect you for sure from an "INR" dispute. I had a customer once who said she did not receive anything while I could see it was delivered and signed. She was also saying that she did not sign for it while Auspost got a signature from that delivery. She opened a dispute and lost after I sent the signture scan to Paypal. So it really helps to deal with cases like this.
The only thng here is you do not need to have an eParcel contract to protect you this way. You can always add a SOD to a regular parcel. For my rates with eParcel it will be about $1.50 difference between eParcel that comes with SOD and regular postage over a counter with SOD added.
From a sellers point of view one of the advantages of offering Paypal is their Seller Protection policy which covers chargebacks and INR claims (as long as the seller meets the requirements to be eligible for seller protection). Personally I only require it for chargebacks as if an item did go missing in the post I would automatically either refund or send a replacement to the buyer. Chargebacks are a different story and can be costly to a seller often many months after the sale took place. We have had four chargebacks this year and they were all covered by Paypal
To be covered under the Paypal Seller Protection for a chargeback you need to provide proof of postage to the address on the Transaction page - a regular parcel with SOD may not necessarily provide the proof that Paypal require.
on 13-07-2016 06:06 PM