hiwhy does ebay take commission on shipping cost as I sell items for auction

[creamandgreen]

why does ebay take a commission on shipping fees?. I have been told by ebay staff by phone to add postage onto price of item & tick postage free. All my items are auctions so if I started item off at .99 cents with postage at $14.80 The buyer would recieve item for nothing & it would cost me more than the item is worth. I don't mind paying commission for final valuation fee 10%. But ebay forced people selling into opening  pay-pal accounts. Pay-Pal   take their commission on total amount deposited by buyer which includes shipping costs. then ebay take their commission out of the total deposit (item final value sold & shipping costs). Do they expect the smaller ebayer members to compete with all the bigger companies that mark their products up when bought & add their propfit percentage plus shipping costs into the price of their items before selling at a fixed price. Example Myers, david jones, target all have postal account where they can send any item anywhere in australia for about $5.00 how can I being a smaller ebay seller compete with that. We the smaller ebay seller are getting charged commission twice on the same final value fee & shipping by ebay & pay-pal. Could you please look into this matter as it is unfair to be charged twice for the one total price by both companies.

thankyou

[247newdeals]

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@imastawka wrote:

247newdeals wrote

 How does me saying I pay the fee state I am going to be selling shiploads within a month not sure how YOU make that connection 

Umm, cos ya said this at post # 48.............

Serious you think I am going to hunt around for second hand boxes lol saving a few cent on each item really is not worth my time and effort clearly you only plan on selling a few items a day or something I plan to sell hundreds daily, if all goes well.

Anyway the thread is about why does ebay take commission on shipping cost as I sell items for auction - not who pays the fees

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yes and it was stated that buyers pay the fees not seller which I said that is not true and that is what started all of this

[247newdeals]

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@imastawka wrote:

I don't have a point.       Rarely do,   it seems.

Except to point to the thread title.

Which is nothing like what you're on about.                           

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I know it was just me arguing the point lol

[imastawka]

I cannot brain, I have the dumb.

I'm going to bed before I turn into a pumpkin.

[247newdeals]

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

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@247newdeals wrote:

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@digital*ghost wrote:

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@247newdeals wrote:

I stand by my statement I pay my fees NOT my buyers

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I don't wanna argue with you, but isn't really just a matter of perspective?

eg

Perspective one - If your fees are being paid out of the money the buyer pays for the item, the buyer's payment is covering the expense of that fee. (If your buyers aren't the funding source for your fee payments, then I'll certainly acquiesce the point). 

Perspective two - You can technically argue that all sellers pay all of their own fees, all the time.... If you consider that the money becomes the seller's when the buyer makes a purchase, in a similar way that a salary generally becomes the employee's as soon as it hits their bank account so they're the ones who are buying an eBay item, not their boss who paid the salary. 

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Yes both are valid but I will chuck in once an item reaches a certain price sales will drop. Of course I could add the fees on top of the price of an item but I can honestly say if I did I would lose sales. Yes I charge buyers the postage costs but the fees I pay because I need to keep my prices at an acceptable level. 

A little example I am going to be setting up someone to run a maket stall for me the items there will cost the same as on EBay minus the postage costs they will not postage cost and fees. My profits cover the fees not my buyers on EBay. 

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It's your buyers that are giving you the profits! If you paid $10 for 100 items and sold each item for $5, then when your eBay invoice came in, yes, you'd be paying out of your pocket because you haven't made any money on the items. Any profit made is paid by the buyer. They cover the original cost of the item, the fees that you need to give eBay and whatever else is left over for you to keep.

You may be paying the fees out of your PayPal account automatically each month, but it's the buyer who put the money in there. If your $10 items sell for $5 each, then there won't be enough in there, so the difference will be taken from your bank or credit card, therefore coming out of your pocket. Buyers pay the costs in any business. If they didn't, businesses wouldn't survive.

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I know you have a point there but I am totally missing it

[jensmanchester-australia]

A little example I am going to be setting up someone to run a maket stall for me the items there will cost the same as on EBay minus the postage costs they will not postage cost and fees. My profits cover the fees not my buyers on EBay. 

You may not have the postage costs as with your ebay sales but if you are having someone run the stall you will have the cost of wages which once again is a business expense.

It just means at the end of the day your net profit from your ebay sales could be at a different rate to your net profit from your market stall sales.

[247newdeals]

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@imastawka wrote:

I cannot brain, I have the dumb.

I'm going to bed before I turn into a pumpkin.

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That is actually a better arguement than some of them so far

[247newdeals]

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@jensmanchester-australia wrote:

A little example I am going to be setting up someone to run a maket stall for me the items there will cost the same as on EBay minus the postage costs they will not postage cost and fees. My profits cover the fees not my buyers on EBay. 

You may not have the postage costs as with your ebay sales but if you are having someone run the stall you will have the cost of wages which once again is a business expense.

It just means at the end of the day your net profit from your ebay sales could be at a different rate to your net profit from your market stall sales.

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Guess what I want increase m price to cover the wages either not sure how I will pay them. Maybe they could be an expense that comes out of the profit

[davewil1964]

Mug lair

Australian Slang

flashily dressed young man of brash and vulgar behaviour

http://www.slang-dictionary.org/australian-slang/Mug_lair

[247newdeals]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

Mug lair

Australian Slang

flashily dressed young man of brash and vulgar behaviour

http://www.slang-dictionary.org/australian-slang/Mug_lair

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You are consistent if nothing else 

[englishrosegardens]

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@247newdeals wrote:

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

I currently have 176 items listed on my main account. Didn't pay for one of them...........and I don't pay the fees on any of them! Only a nong would pay the fees themselves and then complain about how much they are >_<

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yes we have established you do not like paying for things you spend time hunting for boxes rather than just buying them cool you save money but I value my time more than a few cent. You wait for free listing to get your items up rather than paying a small fee to make sure you can list items without worrying about finding free listing offers once again I value my time. Even though you have a very large profit margin you still think a buyer should pick up ebays fees well I do not and personally i doubt if the fee where not there your buyers would see any difference in the price they pay I will let you think they would but come on your the person who check an extra 20% on top of what you think is a fair price for BIN 

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Which takes the most time - queuing up to buy new boxes, or having someone bring them to you without you even having to ask for them? 

You say you value your time but you could have fooled me - you've spent HOURS repeating the same statement over and over again.  At the end of the day it's just semantics as to who pays the fees - they come out of your profit, and your profit comes from the money the buyers pay you.

I would say you're not erg because 247newdeals sounds too much like the sort of username a go-getting Chinese seller would choose, whereas erg doesn't.  Your username would be enough to frighten most buyers off before they even look at your items!

As to whether tippy's BIN prices are fair or not, if the buyers pay it then THEY obviously think it's fair.  Nobody twists their arm to buy at the higher price because tippy also has the cheaper auction option available.