on 06-06-2013 10:43 AM
How is it that buyers can bid and win an item and never pay??? Even if I block certain buyers it still happens. Ive had 4 in 2 weeks that just dont respond to my messages and therefore never pay. The penalty for not paying for an item is obviously not harsh enough! Getting pretty sick and tired of chasing unreliable buyers and waiting the 4 extra days to relist the items again. So, the buyers account may get a strike or will eventually be closed and????.....they just create a new account! The seller cannot leave negative feedback!!! Very unfair considering we sellers are paying the fees!
on 06-06-2013 05:01 PM
well juju, its actually the buyers paying the fees. them buying from you, gives you the money to pay the fees. if no,t then you need factor that into your selling price. and don't forget, there are just as many bad sellers out there.
on 06-06-2013 05:31 PM
I have just had the same issue and agree that it is unreasonable that feedback is not able to be left when the buyer bid without any intention of ever purchasing. We use feedback ratings as a tool yet it is not accurate if feedback is prevented for non-paying buyers. This buyer had 4 feedback ratings and we are the second sellers he has done this to but no-one will know because we're not able to leave feedback.
on 06-06-2013 06:30 PM
junkyard.relics, honestly, sellers don't check a buyers feedback anyway.
What if a buyer bids at the last minute? What would a seller do then if that buyer had 100 red dots?
Giving buyers negative or neutral feedback doesn't work.
on 06-06-2013 08:18 PM
Its just a part of ebay. Just as sellers pull out of sales where they are not happy with the price the item has been won at, there are buyers who don't pay.
on 06-06-2013 08:59 PM
You can put blocks in place to stop non bidders with strikes from being able to bid on your items.
To put these blocks in place hover your mouse over account in your my ebay page and from the drop down click on Site Preferences then go down the list till you see Buyer requirements and to the right of that click on show then click on edit. From there you can put in place the blocks you want, to stop those you want to block from purchasing from you.
It is the sellers that do not open and close non payer disputes that allow the serial non payers to continue buying
on 06-06-2013 09:20 PM
I agree with you OP IMO there needs to significant improvement in the current system in relation to non-payers, not going back to "how it used to work" but development of new ways to manage this issue to make it a safer trading environment for all.
on 06-06-2013 09:42 PM
I have 6 items that I've opened cases for this week from non paying buyers (4 different buyers).
on 07-06-2013 04:46 AM
junkyard.relics, honestly, sellers don't check a buyers feedback anyway.
What if a buyer bids at the last minute? What would a seller do then if that buyer had 100 red dots?
Giving buyers negative or neutral feedback doesn't work.
What if the errant NPB did not bid at the last minute, but bid at the 1st minute of the auction, or the second, or the third OR THE FIFTH LAST MINUTE OR THE FOURTH LAST MINUTE OR THE THIRD LAST MINUTE OR THE SECOND LAST MINUTE?????
so many minutes in a auction but you chose the last minute for your argument
ARNL.... why was that???
possibly because it is the only minute where your argument may stand up to scrutiny???
Heaven forbid
What could the seller do then????
The comment that "sellers don't check feedback" is superflous and without substantiation
IMO it would be classified as a guess:|
If ebay left generic non payer feedback when a NPB dispute was processed by a seller and a strike issued
ie.
NON PAYING BIDDER with a $ sign (AKA the mark) instead of a positve or a negative
then the feedback lookers could look and the blockers could block
......... wait for it............
the blockers could check their blocked bidders list and if they found a blocked bidder id in their activity log and noticed a bid from another ID just after the time that the activity log blocked an id then they could surmise that it was the same buyer who used another id to get around the block
negative feedback for buyer may not stop them bidding
On top of that the myriad of threads that exist and will continue to be started by disgruntled sellers until the cows come home with the title
Why can't I leave appropriate feedback for a non paying buyer
would not exist
because the looker sellers would be able to see $ the "mark" when they "looked" and would learn how to issue same.
on 07-06-2013 04:54 AM
negative feedback for buyer may not stop them bidding but it highlights those buyers who do not meet their responsibilities.
(and I quote ebays exact terminology from the link below)
http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/feedback/allaboutfeedback.html
Leaving honest comments gives members a good idea of what to expect when dealing with other members.
What could be more honest than ebay leaving NPB generic feedback after a buyer does not pay ????
Honesty???? pfft