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cfmj*59
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good morning afternoon depending on where you are . 

I attempted to add a very old golliwog to sell today and was told that I could not sell it as it was offensive , I can however 

I can buy this 

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i find this offensive why can this be advertised 

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Click Frenzy indeed 🤣

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I've even offended myself. lol

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@papermoon.lady wrote:

 

However, I have seen explanations of why they are offensive that in themselves sounded pretty racist instead of against racism, like that they are ugly caricatures because they have black frizzy hair, fleshy lips, scary round eyes rimmed in white... I don't know, but I think that saying that all these features are ugly sounds racist in itself to me.

So yes, it is definitely a difficult issue.


Not really - they are called ugly caricatures because they are caricatures of black-faced minstrels, not even black people directly. There were minstrel dolls before the golly, but the golly made them even more cartoonish and was originally drawn with animal features, like paws instead of hands. Plus over time they were made more and more grotesque, and were often depicted as mean-spirited and / or villains in books etc. 

 

It's not just "here's a black doll with over-pronounced features of a black person", it's "here's a black doll that's a cartoon version of white people making fun of black people at a time when they weren't really considered human, and let's put them in children's books where they're horrible creatures and one of them is called the n word" (Enid Blyton, not Kate Upton's original stories). 

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@domino-710 wrote:

OMG - just made the mistake of going - quite innocently - lol - to the actual website.

 

They have a 70% off Sale - oh brother - don't overpay. 😎


I wonder if OP paid full price or got the 70% off.

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@sugar249 wrote:

@domino-710 wrote:

OMG - just made the mistake of going - quite innocently - lol - to the actual website.

 

They have a 70% off Sale - oh brother - don't overpay. 😎


I wonder if OP paid full price or got the 70% off.


Maybe they paid full price and thats why they are offended not by the item itself😂🤣

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But I love my remote controlled dild0 adaptor. You should try it! Mine is 10" though, instead of the advertised 9". My life was changed forever.

 

As for black dolls, I have a large collection of black dolls. I love them, but sadly so many see them as offensive and racist. I work with black people and they can't understand why they can't buy a black doll for their young daughters. They are forced to buy white dolls, because black ones are racist. That to me is equally as racist. I have given them black dolls for their daughters and the little girls were stoked!

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@*sons_and_daughters* wrote:

 

 

As for black dolls, I have a large collection of black dolls. I love them, but sadly so many see them as offensive and racist. I work with black people and they can't understand why they can't buy a black doll for their young daughters. They are forced to buy white dolls, because black ones are racist. That to me is equally as racist. I have given them black dolls for their daughters and the little girls were stoked!


Literally no one thinks black dolls as a concept is racist. People fought to get black dolls made alongside white ones, and while there aren't as many as white ones in countries like ours, there's plenty of non-white dolls out there that don't have any kind of history or connotations some of the older dolls did or do. 

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My 3 year old great grandaughter has a best friend at pre school who literally looks like the proverbial "Gollywog"  I am told that my friend is just a darker person than she is.  I am in the process of making a black doll for her for Xmas.  Am I doing wrong?  

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As a kid, Michael Jackson looked a bit like a golliwog too. Cute kid!

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Maybe you can make a black doll for both of them...

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