on
05-08-2018
02:15 PM
- last edited on
05-08-2018
03:38 PM
by
kh-jean
Hi all,
I ordered an expensive $1750 brand new Nikon camera from a seller. Before it was dispatched i strictly told seller to recheck my address and name and don't use safe dropping method.
Some facts:
- item location is Melbourne, gets posted from Ashfield, NSW
- Sellers suggested bank transfer (I refused, opted Paypal)
- The items get delivered somewhere but the tracking number just shows that it was delivered in my suburb.
- Seller used a 500 gram express post sachet to post an expensive piece of electronics (Camera's body itsself is 750 gram without box and stuff) .
- Seller also didn't use "signature upon delivery" according to AUPost.
- investigation with Aupost and dispute with eBay and Paypal lodged the same day.
- Seller requested to close the disputes so he can get the funds from Paypal. Also, the parcel is in Aupost system and will only get delivered to my address when PayPal will release funds (tracking number shows "delivered" already)
- Sellers account gets suspended.
- Seller wants time till Monday to make sure package gets delivered to me.
I haven't received anything nor want to complete this transaction with this seller because of my suspicion of fraud.
on 08-08-2018 05:19 PM
Read the other thread.
That buyer won, so what was the difference with yours?
Except that you opened multiple cases.
on 08-08-2018 05:21 PM
on 08-08-2018 05:26 PM
What reason was given for you losing the dispute?
on 08-08-2018 05:36 PM
on 08-08-2018 05:36 PM
on 08-08-2018 05:40 PM
08-08-2018 05:53 PM - edited 08-08-2018 05:56 PM
@zain5700 wrote:
I will do it for others but i have lost hope in police and all these other departments.
Contact eBay and state that the seller was a scammer/hijacked account as all their listings have been
removed,(they just received 2 feedback scores as a buyer).
So according to their own policies no sale happened and you have to get your money back.
For the sake of others also tell them that others were scammed and that they also should get their money back.
Also state that according to their policies it should have been signed for and delivered to your address as it
was over $750
on 08-08-2018 06:28 PM
zain5700,
Do as go-tazz has said, and everyone else on this thread has said. We all want you to get your money back; it's horrible for you to be in this situation.
You have made a mistake by opening a case with eBay and with PayPal. This has caused the eBay dispute to close automatically.
However, you may be able to talk eBay Customer Service into opening the case. You will have to be ultra-polite and explain that you didn't know that you could open a case only with one or the other - that you thought it was just reinforcing your dispute, rather than opening a second dispute.
Explain that the seller is confirmed as a scammer. Refer them to the thread where another buyer found out that he too had been scammed by the very same seller. The thread (which go-tazz posted in the first reply) is here. (Full thread URL: https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Buying/Aus-Post-parcel-says-quot-delivered-quot-but-I-received-noth...)
eBay's "Have us call you" option is by far the best way to get in touch with eBay. (Emails are useless, for a number of reasons, but primarily because the responses, when they are finally sent, are bot-generated.)
eBay say: We'll call you at the phone number registered to your account, or you can enter a different number.
We’re available from 8am to 10pm AET, 7 days a week.
Make a note of the person to whom you're speaking. If you can, record the conversation (but of course get the rep's agreement). Note time and date of conversation. Note substance of what is discussed.
As the call concludes, before you hang up, confirm the details in summary with the rep. For instance, "You agree that the account from which I bought was a hijacked or compromised account, is that correct?" eBay CS: "Yes, that's right." You: "I am entitled to a full refund, do you confirm that?" eBay CS: "Yes." YOU: "And my refund will be processed within x days, is that correct?" eBay CS: "That's correct."
If the eBay CS rep doesn't agree to a refund, ask if you can talk to a supervisor, and explain (again, being ultra-polite) that you would be contacting the Financial Ombudsman if a refund isn't forthcoming, and that you understand you would be making the claim against PayPal (as they are the financial services provider), and PayPal would of course then seek to recoup their loss from eBay. Don't make it a threat; rather, explain that you would honestly hate to have to open a dispute with the FOS as it is a messy way to resolve the problem.
Explain that the delivery address which the scammer used is not correct; that is in fact part of the scammer's method.
Explain that the item was not sent with signature on delivery, and that this negates the seller protection for this scammer (under eBay's Money Back Guarantee).
If you take the proper steps, there is protection for you. You can call eBay right now. Please do that, and let us know how you go. Everyone here wants the right outcome for you.
on 08-08-2018 09:00 PM
I disagree Countess.....the OP has more of a chance of reopening a dispute with paypal than with ebay. At the very least the FOS has more leverage on paypal than on ebay.
on 08-08-2018 10:31 PM
Lyndal, I agree in a way... It's mostly the issue of the seller possibly being able to say he or she has proof of delivery (since the tracking status says "delivered"), hence it definitely being better to rely on eBay if at all possible since - unlike PayPal - eBay will require proof of signature for an item of this value.