on 13-09-2022 06:35 PM
I purchased a pair of Tripps for my daughter for her birthday but when they arrived they were cheap fake copies. Not genuine Tripps. I'm still in the middle of a Paypal dispute to try to get a full refund of purchase price and shipping. In the meantime I reported the item to Ebay as being a knockoff but they haven't removed it from the site. The seller also has a few other Tripp knockoffs in their shop. Does ebay not care any more if sellers make cheap copies of iconic brands to sell here?
on 14-09-2022 09:31 PM
Give it a rest.
You have been a victim of your assumptions. Move on.
on 14-09-2022 09:34 PM
And you will probably find plenty of Australian sellers, selling tripp pants, be it on ebay or not. might go to bunnings and buy a bit of bling and start making them myself, after all it is simply a style and quite legal for anyone to sell an item as tripp under their own brand or even unbranded.
I know there are plenty of online sites with free ideas for making your own tripp pants.
Anyway with a bit of luck you might get a refund if you can prove the quality is not as pictured.
15-09-2022 08:43 AM - edited 15-09-2022 08:47 AM
@777artemis wrote:Yeah, so the word may be in wide use but when you capitalise it and use it to list an item that is an exact copy of an item that happens to have that same brand name then you're probably trying to rip people off.
Anyway it seems I have my answer. eBay doesn't give a **bleep** about sellers ripping people off. I'll keep this in mind and choose to buy brand name products elsewhere from now on.
I agree with you. The part I found most objectionable was when you said they have the exact same photos as from the TrippNYC website. That's blatantly trying to piggy back off the better known brand.
They may not have broken the letter of the law but in my opinion, they have broken the spirit of honesty.
I don't believe English is their first language, even if they are based in UK. Cast your eye over their comments about feedback in the description. I've only ever seen that sort of language used by Chinese sellers. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they have their stuff made in China.
The answer to your question about if ebay cares or will do anything about it, the answer is pretty much no, but it depends on where the seller is based. Any seller based in China is able to pinch photos from authentic websites with impunity. I've seen it done.
However, as your seller is based in UK, they have had to be careful about it. They have used the name Tripp in their title but not TrippNYC & they have labelled it as their own brand in the item description.
There is a lot of this type of thing that goes on on ebay, we see quite a few complaints similar to yours & ebay has introduced an authenticity program for some items eg brand name sneakers, in order to overcome some of it. So yes, they know it is an issue with some listings but your seller has manage toi mislead without actually breaking the 'rules', so to speak.
When trying to buy authentic brands of anything on ebay, be cautious, be super careful. Go through reputable companies or authorised sellers. Otherwise go directly to the websites.
One thing that did concern me and I hope you won't take offence here, is you seem to be unfamiliar with how ebay works in some instances. You seem to be selling quite a bit. I can see you are not a huge seller, but you'd fit into small-medium range, not a newbie.
Yet you said you didn't realise opening a paypal claim at the same time an ebay claim was open would result in the ebay claim being closed.
And you said the seller told you that you would be up for all postage return costs. That is true for change of mind (which is all the seller will admit to), while you are claiming the item is fake. When an item is not as described, the seller is up for all return costs.
I am not sure you can win the case for 'fake' for the reasons we have outlined. However, if there was any fault at all in the garment, you could claim for that. You say the stitching is poor. If you can find any faults eg loose loops, missing stitching, make your claim based on that.
Also as you are a seller, maybe read up on all the terms and conditions or else just stick around on this board and read threads from time to time because although you may never have struck trouble before, you could in the future and it would be useful for you to know exactly how ebay works when or if things go wrong.
on 16-09-2022 12:42 AM
@springyzone wrote:
@777artemis wrote:Yeah, so the word may be in wide use but when you capitalise it and use it to list an item that is an exact copy of an item that happens to have that same brand name then you're probably trying to rip people off.
Anyway it seems I have my answer. eBay doesn't give a **bleep** about sellers ripping people off. I'll keep this in mind and choose to buy brand name products elsewhere from now on.I agree with you. The part I found most objectionable was when you said they have the exact same photos as from the TrippNYC website. That's blatantly trying to piggy back off the better known brand.
They may not have broken the letter of the law but in my opinion, they have broken the spirit of honesty.
Springy, if you go to the trippnyc website and select MALE, then select BOTTOMS, you will clearly see for yourself that these pictures have NOT been stolen from the website.
The difference between the two pants is obvious even just to look at.
This buyer claims to have purchased many TRIPPNYC pants for her son before, so it begs the question how she didn’t know these were not authentic?
She doesn’t have a claim case. They are as described, they are not fake, and as far as the stitching goes, they are a cheap Chinese clothing item. She got what she paid for!
I can understand that she is cranky. But she’s cranky at the wrong person. The only person at fault here, is the buyer for not doing some diligent pre-purchase research.
Even I can see that!
Not bad for a *clown* hey 😉
on 16-09-2022 08:42 AM
I must admit I haven't checked out the authentic TrippNYC site for comparison, I just didn't have the time yesterday.😁
If the photos are not the same then you are right and this is just a case of the buyer making assumptions based on a very similar name.
I have to say ads that copy the exact photos from an authentic website though are one of my pet hates but I have only really seen it done by Chinese sellers.
Even though these pants aren't the TrippNYC brand, they weren't what I would call super cheap. I'd expect even cheap things to be made reasonably-fit to wear in any case. If there was any part that was coming away at the seams or loops missing or not attached properly, then I'd open a claim based on that. Even for a cheaper item.
If the garment is fine as such, just not the same as TrippNYC, then no claim.
I honestly feel that buying 'authentic' brands on ebay can be a bit of a minefield for buyers who don't know to do their investigations, they would often be better to just go to the websites themselves or into a shop.
on 16-09-2022 01:53 PM
Good grief - a pair of these and the fake Air Pods to finish the outfit.
Jingle all the way.
on 16-09-2022 11:49 PM
@domino-710 wrote:Good grief - a pair of these and the fake Air Pods to finish the outfit.
Jingle all the way.
Yuck! Got bogan written all over it! Reminds me of those drongos that hang outside the post office, chanting "yo bro", while swinging their hips like a "really cool dude". Fooly shick maaaaate!
on 17-09-2022 12:34 AM
You can see why they’re called TRIPP pants, can’t you 😂😂🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️