on 17-10-2014 10:21 PM - last edited on 17-10-2014 11:21 PM by gewens
I bought a fake iphone glass back cover on e B a y the seller advertised it was a genuine product ,I would like to know if I am obligated to pay for return postage to get a refund?,there are other buyer who also clamied the product was a fake and it does not function properly.Attached is a photo of the original product and the fake is on the right hand side.
David
23-10-2014 08:47 AM - edited 23-10-2014 08:50 AM
@david1088bns wrote:Hi
Thank you for your comment but if you look at the cammera hole on the fake product, it is way out of alignment .After fitting the back cover the camera became very blurry and unuseable.Money is not really the issue here ,it is the princicles .I was misslead by the seller that this product was genuine and you don't need to be a professor to see that it is a fake. I have two diploma in engineering and used to set up machines that require 10th thousand of a mm accuracy so fitting the case wrong is no chance, as it require nearly zero level of technical skills.
If I have to return the product to get a refund that means the seller will win and I am ending up losing money without any product.If Pay Pal and eBay allow sellers to sell fake product and expect buyer to pay for return postage than they are just as devious and breaking the law as much as the seller, than Pay Pal would have not honor thier buyer protection policy in my opinions.
David
Given it doesn't work, contact the seller and request a refund. If they refuse, then yes, absolutely open an INAD dispute and get a refund that way.
I don't think anyone here would suggest you do otherwise in the circumstances. Many were just trying to make the point that just because it isn't genuine doesn't necessarily mean it's not fit for purpose, and if the price represented a good deal then you might want to consider keeping it. Since as it turns out it's not fit for purpose, I'm sure they'll all agree that you should seek a refund.
Hopefully the seller will issue you a refund without any hassle, or without your needing to open a dispute. Just remember you only have 45 days from the time of purchase to open a dispute, and then a further 20 days to escalate to a claim..
on 23-10-2014 09:00 AM
@david1088bns wrote:
If I have to return the product to get a refund that means the seller will win and I am ending up losing money without any product.If Pay Pal and eBay allow sellers to sell fake product and expect buyer to pay for return postage than they are just as devious and breaking the law as much as the seller, than Pay Pal would have not honor thier buyer protection policy in my opinions.
David
To be fair to eBay and Paypal, you should understand that Australian consumer laws state that it is the customers responsibilty to return goods to the seller/supplier, including paying for postage (within reason). Often, with ebay purchases you will find that neither the seller or Paypal require you to return the item when getting a refund. Even if the seller asks you to return it, you still may not have to if Paypal then tells you it's not necessary.
on 23-10-2014 12:49 PM
Thank you everyone for your susggestions.I have made a compliant to PayPal and they have agreed to give me full refund without posting the fake product back to the seller. I think PayPal is just taken the easy way out here because they said that if I want to do anything further I can file a report to ic3.gov . The seller will continue to sell the fake on eBay and get away with it, because most buyer will not be bother to make a claim if they bought a fake product.
This was only a cheap product but the principal is that I have been cheated and misleaded by the seller. Ebay and PayPal continues to allow this seller to sell this product to other eBayers,I guesses that as long as they are getting their shares from the sell why would they stop any seller from selling fake when they can get away with it.
David
on 23-10-2014 02:10 PM
I thought it was against ebay policy to allow sales of counterfeit goods. Ebay have to be made aware of the roblem before they can act apon it, that's where you come in.
I would like to know David, after reading your feedback, how did you hide the products that you've bought, yet your sold products are visible. I would like to do the same.
on 23-10-2014 02:27 PM
@puppoochi wrote:
I would like to know David, after reading your feedback, how did you hide the products that you've bought, yet your sold products are visible. I would like to do the same.
lol your timing is impeccable. Read here >> http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Buying/How-can-sellers-from-overseas-manipulate-eBay-auction-listing...
You will find the explanation there.
on 23-10-2014 08:45 PM
thank you