Initiated Refund process, but uncertain what to do, but wait ?

Hi,

 

Sorry, first time on here, and was adviced by some people to come the great community ehre to seek advice what to do.

 

I have been hunting around for a Fishfinder on ebay for awhile and finally saw one that the model is selling with starting bid at $75, but buy it now for $100 (plus shipping of $15). For a brand new  the price ranged from approximately $169 (ebay) to $200 in BCF. So $105 buy it out right is not a reasonable price for a second hand.

The Ad has a very short descrption, and this is the exact description in the ad:

"Lowrance elite 4x chirp with sonar, used a few times and then upgraded head unit and mount"

 

 

and with three photo attached (1 with the head unit, one with the photo of the abck of the unit, and another one is the unit on the bed with some cables).

 

So I go ahead of did a Buy it now and paid by paypal immediately. 3-4 days later, i received the package that contains the head unit of the device, with the sensor cables (But the sensor has been cut and not include in the package received), and did not have the power cable either.

 

Tried to communicate the seller through ebay's messaging faclities to ascertain why the sensor was cut and not in the package, and the power cord. He responded that sensor is never included in the sell, nor the power cord. What I get is what he show in picture.  

As i try to tell him his description indicated it comes  with sonar (some people called it sonar, instead of the proper name), hence any reasonable person would interpret the item selling is the complete package. If anything not included in teh package, he should had specified as  "AS IS" or "Head unit only".

As now the sensor cable is cut and without sensor which is integral part of the whole fish finder, this is basically a useless item. to replace the sensor and the power cable, it would costs more than buying the whole package directly form the shop.

 

After seeking some advice from some other fishing forum members, they all agree they would have intepret the ad as selling complete package. Since the seller won't play ball to take responsible that he did not specify the missing part, I should just go ahead and initial Return to Seller process.

 

After i initiated, he has responded back to me through the MBG process, and I quote this is the exact message from ebay and him:

"

27 Jun:Seller approved your return request
27 Jun:The seller sent you a message
Message:There is no refund available, it is shows what it comes with in the pictures and says there is just the unit and mount, it is not my fault if you mis read or jumped the gun before asking questions if you were unsure

"

 

I wanted to response back to him thorugh teh MBG process, but I do not see any function/reply button allow me to. Do I suppose to use the ebay normal contact seller messaging to reply back to him ? Or is it the seller somehow approved my return requests , so no response required from me?

 

 

Any advice will be greatful, as this is my first time disputing a purchase ( and not that i really that much from ebay though...)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Initiated Refund process, but uncertain what to do, but wait ?

MMMMMM......

 

Well, the eBay system kicked in and has seller's PO Box address as return address. And I am supposed to contact the seller for a shipping label..... A bit of concern that sending something to a PO box. 

 

 

 

And, for someone who don't want to refund me, I have the feeling he will drag this on, or never respond my shipping label request. Tempted just pay out of own pocket to send it back with tracking number so I can get my money back......

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Seller has reply back to my message request for a shipping label. He still outright decline return. Ebay has now been contacted, and I have ask them to step in. So Ebay said they will now manually escalates into  a case and contact seller directly behalf of me to facilitate refund. After 5 days, if seller still refuse to refund, ebay will pay me back instead.

 

I supposed this still is a good out come, apart form the wait. I have to say I managed to get better customer services on the phone than from telco ... 😛 

 

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@inner_cent wrote:

MMMMMM......

 

Well, the eBay system kicked in and has seller's PO Box address as return address. And I am supposed to contact the seller for a shipping label..... A bit of concern that sending something to a PO box. 

 

 


I think a PO Box may be a safer option as the parcel is, from my experience, pretty well guaranteed to be scanned at a PO whereas roadside deliveries can be a bit random from what I have heard (and in light of lane-ends comment above).

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I would make sure the PO scanned the parcel in front of me as I have had parcels that have gone through to buyers in a different State without once being scanned.  Make sure you get all the receipts as well on lodgement.

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Hopefully buyer will do nothing and you get a refund without having to send anything anywhere. Given it is a complete novice casual seller there is a fair chance they don't even know how to do a return shipping label.

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Good o. EBay stepped in and I got my full refund already. And I can see the refund is in my PayPal.

 

Got one slight problem still. He has confirmed the return address, but he did not provide me a shipping label, so I suspect he is going to make me pay for the shipping by not providing it . 

 

 

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If ebay has stepped in the seller has no option.  If you have to send the item back you will be reimbursed by ebay and they will go after the seller for their money.

 

Don't do anything about returning it until instructed by ebay.  You have your money so the ball is in the seller's court now.

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

If ebay has stepped in the seller has no option.  If you have to send the item back you will be reimbursed by ebay and they will go after the seller for their money.

 

Don't do anything about returning it until instructed by ebay.  You have your money so the ball is in the seller's court now.


Unless eBay has changed their policy on refunding the return postage it can take a while to force it out of their coffers - in my case 6 weeks after resolution in my favour, with a lot of calls to CS supervisors.

 

Come back if you have the same problem as I did.

 

http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/MBG-stuff-around-by-eBay/m-p/1790229#U1790229

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As a good faith, since he promptly refund when eBay step in, and I really want this resolve n move on. I proposed to the eer I am happy to cover  1/2 o the postage, which is $7 each. And seller agreed. Hope the guy hold on to his side of bargain and reimburse. Else, just a long process to go through again. And at least I will only lose $14 if nothing comes out of it.

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