on 15-07-2012 07:45 PM
The number of people selling fakes on ebay is increasing, especially in the postage stamp and coin area.
Ebay will do nothing. They have probably been overwhelmed.
Law enforcement will do nothing except advise "don't buy from them".
But how to know who they are is a problem.
Is there a cenral register of frauds that we can look up?
Self help is the only option left.
on 15-01-2019 09:24 PM
Wherever he dug up a 14 year old memory to not prove a point in 2019.
on 15-01-2019 09:49 PM
Yeah, because something that happened 14 years ago is relevant now??? Geez, most people only get 15 years for murder. When it comes to eBay, all bets are off as far as time goes. If it was more than a year ago (and in a lot of cases less), forget it.
As your screen shot shows, the seller mentioned about getting a neg 3 months after purchase..........until someone pointed out it was less than 2 months. Your point being?
on 15-01-2019 10:01 PM
At the risk of being unpopular...
The time limit on feedback was indeed originally 90 days (this would have been after ebay changed the feedback system from when you could leave feedback for anyone, neg or pos etc, even if you hadn't been involved in a transaction with them), and if I understand 4channel's post(s) correctly, the point was that the change was to some buyer's detriment because international transactions can drag out beyond 60 days.
I'll leave now.
Oh, wait, no... I did just want to say that change happens for a reason, and it's not possible for every policy to cater for every situation. To eBay, and the vast majority of members, transactions that need more than 60 days before the buyer wants to leave feedback are outlier cases, and if 60 days benefits more than it disadvantages (and I presume it does, otherwise there would have been no reason to change it, or keep it that way for literal years), then there's very little chance it will be changed back.
Now I'll go.
on 15-01-2019 10:18 PM
Don't leave Digi.
I only asked when it was changed to 60 days as it was before my day and I have been here nearly 14 years.
As 14 days can be a lifetime in ebay land it seems to be a waste of time mentioning a 14+ year old change.
15-01-2019 10:44 PM - edited 15-01-2019 10:46 PM
It's all good, it'd probably take something a bit more than my occasional ventures into awkward-feeling cheese-standing-alone moments to get rid of me
I will lament the loss of some old functions or policies from time to time, particularly if they benefitted me without ever disadvantaging me - nostalgia is a heck of a drug.
4channel was definitely making a point based on facts, and I did think it was (in the main) relevant in the context it was brought up, so I thought I'd throw that out there, but at the same time I did want to subtly suggest that it can be more beneficial to look at the bigger picture. i.e. eBay didn't make the change to deliberately disadvantage or silence buyers that had genuine issues, it would have been more likely to prevent problems associated with having a longer timeframe to leave FB, which I believe to have been problems like people leaving FB over issues not truly relating to the actual transaction.
The other thing is, and I guess this can be considered personal opinion, even though I'd like to think it's just common sense, when one is fully aware of the limitations of the feedback system, it's better to simply approach transactions with that in mind (not necessarily at the forefront, but the knowledge is always there). If you've only got 60 days to leave feedback and still purchase something on eBay knowing that may actually become important on any given transaction, then at day 59 if the transaction isn't fully resolved, you simply have to be aware, and accepting, of the fact you need to make a choice between leaving FB based on the transaction so far, or not leaving it at all.
Then again, I've been binge-watching philosophy related programs lately, and I also realised that "it's just the way things are" is nothing but a perceived power than primarily benefits eBay, so I'm ripe for some anarchy, as well.
on 15-01-2019 11:24 PM
on 15-01-2019 11:42 PM
I thought I was being conservative when I said 2007 and that it was actually later, and it was. May 2008 was when the changes were announced.
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Announcements/A-Message-from-Brian-Burke/ba-p/26162415?nobounce=
on 16-01-2019 03:05 PM
@padi*0409 wrote:
@4channel wrote:If you look around, you should be able to find confirmation on what I say and realise my fact was right. *wink*
Now where would you suggest I look for an eBay policy thats at least 14 years old.......................
Look no futher.
See below which was on this thread.
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"@digital*ghost wrote
4channel was definitely making a point based on facts,"
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And if you don't believe digital ghost, Bing or Google should bring up some more confirmation. Same place I found the confirmation to back my memory.
FYI: It was back in the good old days of Ebay.
on 16-01-2019 04:43 PM
@4channel wrote:
And if you don't believe digital ghost,
There you have it, I do believe Digi, her track record for true facts is 100% as is rabbits' (or as close as makes no difference)
Yours ? Well I think I know the answer for that, a bit like the person shouting "Wolf".
16-01-2019 04:45 PM - edited 16-01-2019 04:46 PM
Except that you were 3 years out. It was definitely 2008 and it was applied to ebay AU, US and UK sites all at the same time. I often used to get more than 90 days on the US site but they closed that loophole when they changed to 60 days.