Pitney Bowes UK Postage Pirates

[onei0403]

I bought a jumper from the UK that cost me 5 pounds and Pitney Bowes charged me 15 pounds postage. I was a bit shocked, who are they and when did they take over from the Royal Mail? 

As an expat from the UK, I occasionally like to buy stuff  that I can't purchase easily in Aus but not anymore 😞

[4channel]

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

Plenty of sellers will refuse to cancel and relist an item because they have used up their free allocation for the month, so will be charged a listing fee. Depending on where they are in the world, depends on what that fee would be. I certainly wouldn't be relisting an item if it meant paying an extra insertion fee because a buyer demanded wanted me to. Especially as the buyer would get very miffed if I then added that fee to the final price.

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None of what you have said here applies to the situations I have encountered.

Quote: " Plenty of sellers will refuse " For starters I have only encountered a handfull that couldn't do it. I've had more success with sellers changing.   And your mentioning "Insertion fee" has nothing to with any of my cases!

And what's with ....  "demanded wanted me to." I never demand. I always ask politely. Why are you trying to play with words?

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

I have mentioned numerous times, a seller is generally more responsive if you ask them to REVISE a listing to include all the items you wish to buy. Remind them to adjust the price and also add the weights and dimensions to the revised listing to update the postage cost. When they do that, the difference between GSP and regular post is not much at all. You can even suggest that for the listings they have added to one, they could revise those listings to include a different item so they are not losing a listing, or having to pay an insertion fee. 

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Small items, CD's, DVD's 45 RPM vinyl is always more expensive via Pitney Bowes. Also combining is not an option.

And again, Insertion fee has never been an issue with any of my unsuccessful requests as I have explained previously.

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

You are always very quick to mention about asking sellers to change to USPS, but when you get over a certain weight (either 2 or 4lbs, I can't remember), the price to go via USPS skyrockets as the items can no longer go first class international. The price skyrockets to way over the GSP cost in most cases. The items you buy may be light and may fall into the FCI cost, but that's not the case for most people. You always forget to mention that when you go into yet another I hate GSP rants. Give people all the facts, not just your personal opinion.

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Quote: " the price to go via USPS skyrockets" ...  " the price to go via USPS skyrockets"    "the price to go via USPS skyrockets"

 t"he price to go via USPS skyrockets "

Nonsense!  The price via USPS doesn't sky rocket. Your remark is as incorrect and totally unusable in this debate as Bush's calling N Korea, Iraq, Iran "the axis of evil"  .

* Axis implies that those countries were connected which is totally false

* Skyrocket implies that the price via USPS starts from one point and goes up, waaay out of sight.

No "I hate GSP" rant. Just the facts of how GSP has affected me.

[padi*0409]

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@4channel wrote:

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Quote: " the price to go via USPS skyrockets" ...  " the price to go via USPS skyrockets"    "the price to go via USPS skyrockets"

 t"he price to go via USPS skyrockets "

Nonsense!  The price via USPS doesn't sky rocket. Your remark is as incorrect and totally unusable in this debate as Bush's calling N Korea, Iraq, Iran "the axis of evil"  .

* Axis implies that those countries were connected which is totally false

* Skyrocket implies that the price via USPS starts from one point and goes up, waaay out of sight.

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False, here's the quotes  4channel. (note, prices are US$)

[*tippy*toes*]

YOU might be buying small items, but I'm betting that at least some of the people you replied to from this 4yo thread were buying items that weighed more than 4lbs. I buy model cars. It doesn't take long for the price to go from $US28 to well over $US50 because I bought one too many cars from a seller and it's gone over 4lbs, therefore, can't be sent via first class international. Once it goes over that weight, it has to be sent priority, and the price goes through the roof. So, I ask the seller to hold off and I'll bid on some more items. I may as well make it worth my while if I'm already going to be paying that much. 6 cars, 20 cars, costs the same to post.

I have already explained a dozen times how to combine post with GSP, but you choose to keep ignoring that, so I'm not going through it again. 

The difference between you and me is, I will buy the items I want. You, you will miss out on that once in a lifetime item because you are blinkered by a postage service. I win, you lose. Who knows, maybe I have bought that once in a lifetime video tape that you wanted? Your loss.

I have no idea what Bush, or N Korea, or Iraq have to do with GSP. I doubt they even know what it is. Pointless in mentioning them really.

[4channel]

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

I have already explained a dozen times how to combine post with GSP, but you choose to keep ignoring that, so I'm not going through it again. 

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This is the only part I'm going to reply to tiptytoe as you've done what you usually do.

I know very well how to combine post with GSP. And I'm ignoring nothing.

[*tippy*toes*]

You are ignoring what I say because you state above that combined postage is not possible with GSP. Your words, not mine.

[4channel]

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@padi*0409 wrote:

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@4channel wrote:

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Quote: " the price to go via USPS skyrockets" ...  " the price to go via USPS skyrockets"    "the price to go via USPS skyrockets"

 t"he price to go via USPS skyrockets "

Nonsense!  The price via USPS doesn't sky rocket. Your remark is as incorrect and totally unusable in this debate as Bush's calling N Korea, Iraq, Iran "the axis of evil"  .

* Axis implies that those countries were connected which is totally false

* Skyrocket implies that the price via USPS starts from one point and goes up, waaay out of sight.

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False, here's the quotes  4channel. (note, prices are US$

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Nothing "False" padi. I was just pointing out that the way Tiptytoe was using the term "Skyrocket" was inaccurate and misleading. Hey, but a  good try on though.

Also thanks for the info here. Unnecessary but great diagrams.

Spoiler

And not a sssssskkkkyyyy rocket in site  ~~~~~~~~~~~>  

[davewil1964]

I notice you chose to cherrypick pj's reply of 4 years ago.

It's a fair bet the quoted prices are now obsolete, so on that count alone it would have been best to let sleeping posts lie.

After all, you could have replied when the post was current if you were fair dinkum about providing advice rather than being on a crusade.

[padi*0409]

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@4channel wrote:

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Nothing "False" padi. I was just pointing out that the way Tiptytoe was using the term "Skyrocket" was inaccurate and misleading. Hey, but a  good try on though.

Also thanks for the info here. Unnecessary but great diagrams.

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When the word "skyrockets" is used in pricing it implies a sudden and significant increase in price, which is exactly what the pricing on USPS does when a package goes over 4lbs for international post - so Tippy was not in error to use that phrase.

[brerrabbit585]

Using the word skyrocket is no more an over-exaggeration than carrying on about people being severely deprived if they pay for GST or GSP, or go without buying their collectables because of those two things.

[4channel]

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@brerrabbit585 wrote:
Using the word skyrocket is no more an over-exaggeration than carrying on about people being severely deprived if they pay for GST or GSP, or go without buying their collectables because of those two things.

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Well, with having to pay 10% extra on items from plain ordinary folk selling their unwanted second hand items in the US is not a good thing.  And people paying double postage on dvds, cds, records, books etc with GSP is an uncool thing.

Collectables are basically a luxuary item and some here will argue that people shouldn't speak out (The few resident bullies here use the terms winge, moan etc). Well,I'm not going to get in a debate about that because I think that people should spend their money on what makes them happy as long as it harms nobody else.