Pitney Bowes

[skapes_69]

Hi all just want some advise about Pitney Bowes.

Purchased an item from a US seller 190994128640 postage was around 105 US on the ad

when it finsihed the seller got back to me and said it was going to be 127 odd and thats fine as I thought 105 was a bit cheap

So I asked him to create a new invoice and he could'nt, something to do with the global shipping program I think he sent me what it said, anyway I said thats fine paid the invoice and paid the difference via paypal, so far all good.

This is the first seller I have come across that has global shipping program and I buy a bit from the US

This morning he emails me and said there must be some mistake as he didn't get all the money, basically 61 was taken by pitney Bowes, I explained this to him and he doesn't seem to know whats going on, what is the procedure at their end with pitneys now?

I suggested he refund and create a new invoice for direct shipping or to a US address I can use but I don't think he knows how.

I would prefer a new invoice via USPS but know all I can see is a mess.

Any advise moving forward?

Thanks.

[phoenix10830419]

Pitney Bowes is over charging on shipping through Ebay.

Today I was charged $29.95 USD for a friend to post some books for me and the transaction was done via Ebay for one dollar. $6.40 USD was charged as "import charge" ??? Ironic as the items are actually being EXPORTED from US to Australia. And the rest was a shipping charge. I have already paid for global shipping through Ebay and have now been charged again for shipping.

We have previously done the same transaction for books several times through Ebay in the last 18 months and there was no extra charge for shipping or import duties. This is the first time this has happened.

On top of that, Paypal are now charging fees to use their service to send money from Australia to US and vice versa. It cost a $6.00 fee to send money from me to my friend in the US, whereas previously it cost nothing.

On top of that, the Australian Government is going to impose the GST at 10% on all overseas trading in Ebay.  This looks like we will soon have a 15%GST before the next elections. It also means that Australian buyers will not only be paying the exhorbinate postage costs that come out of the US and the UK but as these are services we will also be paying 10% more to cover GST.

All of these extra costs will be killing E-Commerce transactions with Ebay, Amazon, etc. in Australia. It's bad enough that we have the highest living expenses in the world and get nothing for our tax dollars, now we will no longer be able to buy items from overseas that we don't have in our shops anyway or are so expensive here, the average Aussie can't afford them.

[4channel]

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@phoenix10830419 wrote:

Pitney Bowes is over charging on shipping through Ebay.

Today I was charged $29.95 USD for a friend to post some books for me and the transaction was done via Ebay for one dollar. $6.40 USD was charged as "import charge" ??? Ironic as the items are actually being EXPORTED from US to Australia. And the rest was a shipping charge. I have already paid for global shipping through Ebay and have now been charged again for shipping.

We have previously done the same transaction for books several times through Ebay in the last 18 months and there was no extra charge for shipping or import duties. This is the first time this has happened.

On top of that, Paypal are now charging fees to use their service to send money from Australia to US and vice versa. It cost a $6.00 fee to send money from me to my friend in the US, whereas previously it cost nothing.

On top of that, the Australian Government is going to impose the GST at 10% on all overseas trading in Ebay.  This looks like we will soon have a 15%GST before the next elections. It also means that Australian buyers will not only be paying the exhorbinate postage costs that come out of the US and the UK but as these are services we will also be paying 10% more to cover GST.

All of these extra costs will be killing E-Commerce transactions with Ebay, Amazon, etc. in Australia. It's bad enough that we have the highest living expenses in the world and get nothing for our tax dollars, now we will no longer be able to buy items from overseas that we don't have in our shops anyway or are so expensive here, the average Aussie can't afford them.

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Thanks for your input phoenix10830419. This indeed is very sad. I'm actually now going to reduce buying on ebay. Global Shipping / Pitney was the poison but now there are other bad things.

GST means GO STUPID TAX as the fools will believe me when I say I'll never bring it in but when I am elected again, I'll bring it in. Q: Aaah who said that ???? 
A: A garden gnome.

[davewil1964]

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@phoenix10830419 wrote:

Pitney Bowes is over charging on shipping through Ebay.

Today I was charged $29.95 USD for a friend to post some books for me and the transaction was done via Ebay for one dollar. $6.40 USD was charged as "import charge" ??? Ironic as the items are actually being EXPORTED from US to Australia. And the rest was a shipping charge. I have already paid for global shipping through Ebay and have now been charged again for shipping.

We have previously done the same transaction for books several times through Ebay in the last 18 months and there was no extra charge for shipping or import duties. This is the first time this has happened.

On top of that, Paypal are now charging fees to use their service to send money from Australia to US and vice versa. It cost a $6.00 fee to send money from me to my friend in the US, whereas previously it cost nothing.

On top of that, the Australian Government is going to impose the GST at 10% on all overseas trading in Ebay.  This looks like we will soon have a 15%GST before the next elections. It also means that Australian buyers will not only be paying the exhorbinate postage costs that come out of the US and the UK but as these are services we will also be paying 10% more to cover GST.

All of these extra costs will be killing E-Commerce transactions with Ebay, Amazon, etc. in Australia. It's bad enough that we have the highest living expenses in the world and get nothing for our tax dollars, now we will no longer be able to buy items from overseas that we don't have in our shops anyway or are so expensive here, the average Aussie can't afford them.

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Several things come to mind -

Why are you buying from a 'friend' through eBay?

Why is the 'friend' using the GSP rather than USPS?

Why do you consider them a friend, when they are shafting you?

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@4channel wrote:

Here are 2 threads that give an idea of how it negativly affects us.

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Spoiler

Ho Hum

Spoiler

Just checking testing

[lyndal1838]

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@phoenix10830419 wrote:

On top of that, Paypal are now charging fees to use their service to send money from Australia to US and vice versa. It cost a $6.00 fee to send money from me to my friend in the US, whereas previously it cost nothing.

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This is part of the new paypal terms......it is no longer free to send money to family and friends overseas.

As to the rest of your story.....it all sounds very suss.   Are you or your friend trying to avoid ebay/paypal fees?  If the GSP is being used it certainly sounds like that.  The GST component of the transaction is very high if the GSP is used as Pitney Bowes charges a substantial fee to collect it....ebay does not.

[brerrabbit585]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

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@phoenix10830419 wrote:

Pitney Bowes is over charging on shipping through Ebay.

Today I was charged $29.95 USD for a friend to post some books for me and the transaction was done via Ebay for one dollar. $6.40 USD was charged as "import charge" ??? Ironic as the items are actually being EXPORTED from US to Australia. And the rest was a shipping charge. I have already paid for global shipping through Ebay and have now been charged again for shipping.

We have previously done the same transaction for books several times through Ebay in the last 18 months and there was no extra charge for shipping or import duties. This is the first time this has happened.

On top of that, Paypal are now charging fees to use their service to send money from Australia to US and vice versa. It cost a $6.00 fee to send money from me to my friend in the US, whereas previously it cost nothing.

On top of that, the Australian Government is going to impose the GST at 10% on all overseas trading in Ebay.  This looks like we will soon have a 15%GST before the next elections. It also means that Australian buyers will not only be paying the exhorbinate postage costs that come out of the US and the UK but as these are services we will also be paying 10% more to cover GST.

All of these extra costs will be killing E-Commerce transactions with Ebay, Amazon, etc. in Australia. It's bad enough that we have the highest living expenses in the world and get nothing for our tax dollars, now we will no longer be able to buy items from overseas that we don't have in our shops anyway or are so expensive here, the average Aussie can't afford them.

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Several things come to mind -

Why are you buying from a 'friend' through eBay?

Why is the 'friend' using the GSP rather than USPS?

Why do you consider them a friend, when they are shafting you?

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I'd like to know what sort of world they live in if they think we've got the highest living expenses in the world.

As for the rest, it just doesn't make sense for friends to do anything through ebay!  A friend and I often send money through pp when we sell each other stuff but no way would we ever get ebay involved!

I thought paypal have always charged a cross-border fee on personal payments.  Maybe they didn't if there was no currency conversion, ie. Person A sends AUD and person B (living overseas) receives AUD.  They'd still have to convert it to their own currency later so paypal would get their fees, just at a different time.  Perhaps people never realised this and thought they weren't paying any fees at all.

[lyndal1838]

In the past it was free to send money overseas if you used paypal or bank account funds but I believe there was a charge if you used a credit card.

Now there are no free transactions for personal payments.

[4channel]

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@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:

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@4channel wrote:

Here are 2 threads that give an idea of how it negativly affects us.

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Spoiler

Ho Hum

Spoiler

Just checking testing

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Damn, I didn't realise that it becomes transparent when I put it into quote mode.    :smileycrazy:

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@4channel wrote:

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@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:

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@4channel wrote:

Here are 2 threads that give an idea of how it negativly affects us.

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Spoiler

Ho Hum

Spoiler

Just checking testing

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Damn, I didn't realise that it becomes transparent when I put it into quote mode.    :smileycrazy:

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ahh grasshopper . . . . . you still have much to learn 

Spoiler

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[countessalmirena]

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@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:

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@4channel wrote:

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@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:

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@4channel wrote:

Here are 2 threads that give an idea of how it negativly affects us.

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Spoiler

Ho Hum

Spoiler

Just checking testing

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Damn, I didn't realise that it becomes transparent when I put it into quote mode.    :smileycrazy:

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ahh grasshopper . . . . . you still have much to learn 

Spoiler

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Sometimes the esoteric knowledge for grasshoppers and other camouflaged creatures is even harder to find.

I assure you, though, that it is there.

It sings like a grasshopper's wings being rubbed by its back legs.

The female is oddly mute in the insect world, and the song produced by rasping is a song of seduction. This is not translated to the human kingdom, however, for there is no mating in this thread. Just... enlightenment.