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I purchased an item that turned up with parts missing and was nothing like the image listed on eBay. It didn't even come with the power lead. While I have started a return claim, the seller wants me to send it to China when the return address label on the box has a return address of NSW. I feel like I am being scammed out of what will be well over $400 after tracked postage to China. Trying to contact eBay is now like pulling teeth from a unicorn. I sent a message of concern to ebay and got an email in Chinese? It's a joke. And after I did the claim, eBay is now flooded with the same dodgy machine and yes same fake image on some posts as I enquired about it. I'm sick of auto replies from eBay saying they won't get back to you regarding the issue, they will just consider it. When/If this current mess gets sorted I will be closing my eBay account as the scams seem to outweigh the genuine sellers now and it's just a minefield of scammers selling now.
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So you do not want answers and resort to name calling when people give them

 

Nowhere have you said you opened an item not as described dispute 

 

See ya 

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@Anonymous wrote:
 Seems it's just for keyboard warriors with too much time on their hands. ๐Ÿ‘‹

You could say that......

There would be precious few responders here it it was not for a few keyboard warriors as you call us.

And yes, at the moment I have got too much time on my hands.....I am in hospital and have b*gger all to do and all day to do it.

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Replying to the thread in general with what I hope will help overall. 

 

An INAD dispute and return request are (for all intents and purposes) the same thing on eBay, so there's no point arguing over semantics, (that is, when a buyer clicks "return this item" via ebay, they get the same list of reasons why they want to return the item, some being INAD reasons, the rest being COM reasons, so when someone says they have opened a return request, the only thing that needs to be clarified - if not self-evident already - is whether they selected an INAD or COM reason).

 

How return requests are handled via eBay for INAD reasons is all outlined here - OP you can easily read through this to figure out what your expectations should be with regards to how one should be handled by the seller, and how it will be handled by eBay if the seller doesn't follow through, and / or what points to discuss with eBay if the outcome is not satisfactory:

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/help/policies/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy/ebay-money-back-guarantee-pol...

 

 

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Thank you digital*ghost, very helpful.
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Digi I have to disagree with you....it seems that what should happen and what does happen are two different things.

 

Last Christmas I had occasion to want to return a bracelet that was too short....it had been shortened and it was not mentioned in the listing.

The seller said no and the dispute was closed.

 

When I rang ebay (before the call centre was closed) I was directed to paypal for a dispute.  In fact the ebay rep opened the dispute despite me asking to do it myself in order to apply for the return postage option.  Result was that I had to pay for the tracked return postage myself.

 

I would never ever use the MBG again.....it will be a definite not as described dispute in future.

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

Digi I have to disagree with you....it seems that what should happen and what does happen are two different things.

 

Last Christmas I had occasion to want to return a bracelet that was too short....it had been shortened and it was not mentioned in the listing.

The seller said no and the dispute was closed.

 

When I rang ebay (before the call centre was closed) I was directed to paypal for a dispute.  In fact the ebay rep opened the dispute despite me asking to do it myself in order to apply for the return postage option.  Result was that I had to pay for the tracked return postage myself.

 

I would never ever use the MBG again.....it will be a definite not as described dispute in future.


The only circumstances under which the seller has (or should have) the option to deny a return request is if the buyer selects a COM reason for the return, and the seller has "no returns accepted" as their return policy (which applies exclusively to COM returns), or the request is made after the MBG has expired (this applies to INAD return requests, too). Sellers literally do not get an option to decline and close an INAD request unless it's past the MBG guarantee timeframe. 

 

My point was you can't open an "INAD dispute" on eBay without it being a return request, but you can open a return request for a non-INAD reason ("wrong size or doesn't fit", for example, is commonly chosen as a reason for return, on eBay this is a COM reason, but is frequently [and incorrectly] selected when the item was described as a different size).

 

I believe I addressed the fact that not all requests on eBay go the way one expects them to, by my use of the word "should" rather that a straight "will", and the line "what points to discuss with eBay if the outcome is not satisfactory". 

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Sorry Digi, but sellers can dispute returns for INAD claims.  I have disputed and won a number of INAD claims.

You are right that it is not a check box option though.

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@gutterpunkz05 wrote:

Sorry Digi, but sellers can dispute returns for INAD claims.  I have disputed and won a number of INAD claims.

You are right that it is not a check box option though.


Of course, but were you ever given the option to just decline one? 

 

ETA - You edited in the answer to my question while I was posting my response. Smiley Very Happy

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If eBay did

as eBay should,

the eBayhood

would flip its lid.

 

 

Very true, digital*ghost; the process should proceed in a particular way, and the CS staff are trained in its proceeding in a particular way, and IT are (presumably) told that it should proceed in a particular way, and eBay members are advised that it proceeds in a particular way, and then... BAM! There's an anomaly!

 

Every now and then there's a glitch in the Matrix...

 

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The original listing, shows the item located and shipping from  china,  if they  use an onshore fulfillment centre then that is irrelevant to the return address.   Postage to China would be nowhere near $400  for an item wheighing 7kg, and if the item is not as described the return is at the sellers expense

Your  FB states the power cord and other parts were missing, what other parts and did you give the seller an opportunity to replace the missing part/s.  (not 100% clear that a power supply is included, states a code cable is supplied, but not sure why it would need a code cable, other than that there is a pic with words  Switch  Socket  &  Crisper(fuse) but no mention of the cable.

You also claim the item is a cheap knockoff,  however the item is unbranded and in no way purports to be anything else.

In all likelyhood it is a cheap chinese product, but that is what you bought

 

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