@ramadsebas wrote:
I'm not sure what's unclear about this... the seller did not write a personalised email for me; it's a stencil which has the typical "If you want to opt out of receiving _____ emails from _____" (where neither of the blanks are the seller in question) at the bottom... the sender is not the seller. My issue here is that my information was given to a mailing list without my permission. Is it so hard to understand?
It happens a lot with Chinese sellers as most have multiple account and they'll send spam via other accounts.
Anytime you deal with such sellers they seem to get access to your Email address,(when I get one I just block,
it and go to the next Email).
If you look at the bottom of the page it says powered by Lithium,(they are the company that manages the
discussion boards).
Further down is Help,(which is where you need to go if you want to contact eBay as it has their Chat and
ways for phone contact at the bottom of that page).
eBay do not reply to questions on the discussion boards as it must be beneath them to answer queries and
they seem to prefer that members answer queries instead as they tend to be more accurate),
The threads they started on Inside eBay,for Community feedback,Technical issues,Announcement,seller
releases,and chat with eBay staff are a complete joke on their part as they do not monitor those and they may
make an announcement of some sort and then disappear again,(they prefer to treat us as mushrooms and any
notion that Aussie members are appreciated or matter went out the window ages ago),
@ramadsebas wrote:
> It is your (perceived) problem, so it is incumbent on you to spend the money to take legal action, if you're so incensed inclined.
Actually, these are criminal charges. I already filed reports to the ACCC and the ACMA, so the police will investigate, prosecute and I might get victims of crime compensation.
not really wanting to give this post any more attention than it has already had, but thought a little perspective might be in order.
I read this on abc.com.au news page:
@ramadsebas, I know you feel that your personal life has been violated, but victims of crime compensation!!!!!! REALLY, you received an unsolicited email for goodness sake. Read the abc news item about the parents of a one-punch victim and their thoughts on compensation.
The solution for you is very simple. Use your email server to set up a filter that automatically puts emails from the spammer into your spam folder. The ACCC, ACMA, the police . . . . . . . REALLY?????? . . . . . . they will not prosecute.
I just thought a dose of reality might be in order. Victims of Crime compensation is for people who have been the victims of genuine crime that causes them injury and/or hardship. Getting spam email does not qualify!
First spoiler is for those who don’t like clicking links.
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Andrew Lee was sentenced to eight years in jail for killing 19-year-old Patrick Cronin in a one-punch attack in Melbourne's north-east in 2016.
Key points:
- All Victorian victims of crime are entitled to seek compensation from the offender
- The process to enforce awarding of costs can be lengthy and expensive
- Report recommends a new legal service to help recover compensation from offenders
But for Patrick's father, Matt Cronin, that time behind bars is Lee's punishment from the state.
He feels the 35-year-old should also financially compensate his family for the loss of his son.
"It's something we feel we have to do to get some sort of closure," Mr Cronin said.
"Someone might go to jail, but it hasn't hurt them financially. If they walk out of jail with what they had previously, what have they lost?"
Patrick Cronin's death was widely reported, and sparked criticism about Victoria's laws around one-punch attacks.
He had just played his first senior football match for his local club, alongside his older brother, and had gone to the pub to celebrate.
The 19-year-old was trying to help a friend who got involved in a brawl when he was hit in the head by Lee.
When Lee was sentenced last year, the judge said he had shown genuine remorse and had good prospects for rehabilitation.
Even though Lee is now behind bars, the Cronin family is pursuing him for compensation.
"You go through a red-light camera and get a fine for $300," Mr Cronin said.
"Kill someone and you don't get any fine."
Victims face 'convoluted' compensation system
The Cronin family are among the few victims of crime trying to make an offender pay them compensation.
It is an avenue that is available to all victims of crime in Victoria after the state hands down a sentence.
But it is an onerous process, and one that many people do not know about, according to Victoria's Victims of Crime Commissioner, Greg Davies.
"After going through the trauma of the court case, they then have to go back to the court to get an order for compensation," Mr Davies said.
"If [the offender] decides to ignore the order, it's not enforceable, which means the victim has to go into the civil jurisdiction, back into the courts again at their own expense, to have the order made into an enforceable order."
In the end that might all come to nothing as well because the offender may not have sufficient assets to meet the requirements of the order, Mr Davies said.
Victims pursued and were granted court orders for restitution or compensation in only 4.2 per cent of cases heard in the Magistrates' Court in 2016-17, according to data from the Sentencing Advisory Council.
Pursuing compensation 'costly'Matt Cronin said he had no idea his family could request compensation from the offender under the Sentencing Act, until some police officers mentioned it to him.
"It was really only that we stumbled on to that — there was no-one on our side telling us about it," he said.
His family has since hired a lawyer to guide them through the process.
"It's a costly, expensive exercise," he said.
It is a separate system from state-funded compensation for victims of crime, which often comes with strict guidelines on how the money should be spent — for example, on counselling services.
Report calls for legal support for victims
A new report released by the Sentencing Advisory Council recommends big changes to the system, including a new legal service for victims of crime, that would also work to recover money from offenders.
It also recommends better advice for victims on their compensation rights, and strengthening the enforcement process.
"By and large it's an enormous step in the right direction," said Mr Davies.
"It will be a matter for the Government to decide whether they'd accept the recommendations — you'd hope they would."
However, Sentencing Advisory Council chair Arie Freiberg said previous calls for change had been ignored.
"There've been reports right back to the 1980s looking at the ability to enforce orders," he said.
"But we have to remember that one of the major problems is that many of the offenders don't have the means or resources to fulfil the compensation orders.
"What this report recommends is where there are resources, where the offender does have means, the victims ought to have access to them."
'Like tearing a bandaid off slowly'Matt Cronin is part-way through the process of trying to get compensation from Lee.
He wishes that an order of compensation could be made at the time of sentencing, so victims of crime could move forward.
"It's like tearing a bandaid off slowly," he said.
When asked why he thought some victims of crime tried to get compensation given the difficulties, he said he was uncertain.
"Nothing brings your loved ones back … so why do you do it? I'm not sure," he said.
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@ramm wrote
After purchasing an item I've received an email from a third party associated with the seller, indicating that they've divulged my information to a third party. Surely this is a major violation of eBay seller policies. If not then it is a violation of laws in various countries as I'm sure you're aware... so who do I report this issue to? The police? Because the guy lives not more than an hours drive away; I can have him legally charged for spam if I like...
“legally charged for spam” . . . . . . no you can’t. If you walked into the police station and tried to have someone charged for sending you spam you’d be laughed at . . . . . . . and rightly so!
After purchasing an item I've received an email from a third party associated with the seller, indicating that they've divulged my information to a third party. Surely this is a major violation of eBay seller policies. If not then it is a violation of laws in various countries as I'm sure you're aware... so who do I report this issue to? The police? Because the guy lives not more than an hours drive away; I can have him legally charged for spam if I like...
“legally charged for spam” . . . . . . no you can’t. If you walked into the police station and tried to have someone charged for sending you spam you’d be laughed at . . . . . . . and rightly so!
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@ramad, Just being curious now, exactly how much compensation would you seek or think you are entitled to?
