!!WARNING AUSTRALIANS!! EBAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

[nofoxgiven]

I wanted to buy from an Australian seller 2 reason's to help a fellow Aussie and if the item needs to be returned it cost $15.00

So i found an item i wanted it said in the add it was located in NSW Australia so to make sure i messaged the seller he said yes we are in Australia so i purchest the item was $249.99.

it got to mr in 5 days on opening it the items had scratches on them and parts missing so i contacted the seller no reply.

 so after a week of this i went ahead and gave them the worst feedback they replyed begging for me to remove the bad feedback it was then i realized they were chinease i said to them your not in australia at all are you they replyed yes we have a ware house there.

i wasent convinced so said tell the truth and ill remove the bad feedback and give you good feedback to my big suprive they admited they were in fact in china and didnt have a ware house in australia ( AS APERENTLY ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS TELL THE CUSTOMER THEY HAVE A WARE HOUSE IN AUSTRALIA AND THAT MAKES IT OK WITH EBAY FOR THEM TO SELL THERE ITEMS FROM CHINA ADVERTISED THAT THE ITEM IS LOCATED IN AUSTRALIA EBAY DOSE NOT MAKE THEM PROVE THAT THEY HAVE A WARE HOUSE IN AUSTRALIA NOPE THEY JUST ALOW THEM TO LIE TO THE AUSTRALIAN PPL AND TELL THEM THE ITEMS LOCATED IN OZ ON WHEN ITS NOT) Im posting this as today i payed $71.00 to send an item back to china that i perchest from a seller that advertised the item as being lockated in australia.

And the seller will get off scot free.

SO ID LIKE TO WARN EVERYONE BEFOR BUYING FROM AUSTRALIAN EBAY FROM AN AUSTRALIAN SELLER ASK FOR THE ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER TO RING THEM AS EBAY IS SO SLACK THEY ALOW THEM TO LIE TO THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE ABOUT WERE THE ITEM REALLY IS AND DOSE NOT MAKE THEM PROVE THEY REALY HAVE A WARE HOUSE IN AUSTRALIA AND WHEN YOU MAKE A CASE AGAINST OR REPORT THE SELLER EBAY SAYS SORRY WE CANT TELL YOU HOW WE DELT WITH THEM, THATS BECOUSE THEY DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW THEY DID NOTHING TO THEM FOR LIEING TO YOU.

THIS 3 STRIKE BS SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH YOU LIE ON YOUR ADD YOUR BANNED FROM EBAY AND HAVE TO PAY THE RETURN POSTAGE OF THE ITEM THE PERSON YOU LIED TO TOO HAVE THE ITEM RETURNED.

IVE HAD TO PAY $71.00 postage for something i was on the understanding as it said on the add located in australia IM OUT OF POCKET $71.00 AND THE SELLER IS STILL TRADEING AS THE ITEMS ARE STILL LOCATED IN AUSTRALIA.

PAYPAL TOLD ME EBAY IS A GLOBAL SELLER MANY OF THEM HAVE A WARE HOUSE IN AUSTRALIA, I SAID NO THEY DONT THEY JUST SAY THEY DO PAY PAL SAID TAKE IT UP WITH EBAY ITS A DIFFRENT COMPANY AND SORRY BUT THE SELLER DOCENT HAVE AN AUSTRALIAN ADDRESS SO IF YOU WANT YOUR MONEY BACK YOU MUST SEND IT TO CHINA.

ON TAKEING IT UP WITH EBAY THEY DO NOTHING AS BUYERS DONT MAKE THEM MONEY SELLERS DO AND ITS ALL ABOUT THE CASHHHHHHHHHHH .

(SO DO YOUR HOMEWORK PEOPLE IF THEY DONT HAVE AN AUSTRALIAN ADDRESS AND A PHONE NUMBER YOU CAN RING AND TALK TO THEM WITH OUT THEM HAVEING BROKEN ENGLISH DO NOT BUY FROM THEM AS EBAY DONT CARE ABOUT ANYONE BARE THE CASHHHHHHHHHHHH).

DONT BUY ANYTHING FROM <Removed> HE HAS NOT GOT A WARE HOUSE IN AUSTRALIA AT ALL AND EBAY DONT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BAR THE CASHHHHHHHHHH THE SELLER MAKES THEM.

WE ALL NEED TO STRIKE AND STOP BUYING FROM EBAY TILL THEY START BANNING SELLERS DOING THE WRONG THING AND IF THE ITEMS ADVERTISED AS BEING IN OZ AND THE SELLER HASENT GOT AN OZ ADDRESS TO RETURN TO THEY SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY POSTAGE BACK TO CHINA IM OUT OF POCKET $71.00 THEY SHOULD BE MADE TO PAY IT AS ITS BS !!WARNING AUSTRALIANS!! 

[padi*0409]

On both those threads you mention 4channel there was a combination of the OP's getting answers from experienced members that they didn't want to hear, not giving all the details of the problem in the first place, and to be quite honest both OP's were giving as much as they took in regards to interpersonal disputes.

The problem of members opening threads then not wanting to accept genuine answers from experienced members of the boards will always be a problem, and there have been many instances where members have asked the same question on a different board hoping to get the answer they wanted.

Much like the long-running debate over the GSP.

[4channel]

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@padi*0409 wrote:

On both those threads you mention 4channel there was a combination of the OP's getting answers from experienced members that they didn't want to hear, not giving all the details of the problem in the first place, and to be quite honest both OP's were giving as much as they took in regards to interpersonal disputes.

The problem of members opening threads then not wanting to accept genuine answers from experienced members of the boards will always be a problem, and there have been many instances where members have asked the same question on a different board hoping to get the answer they wanted.

Much like the long-running debate over the GSP.

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Yes padi*0409, some experienced members were attempting to give answers or put their point across. No issue with that.. But there was also a degree of the usual mocking, bullying and sarcastic carry on from a few members.

Yes ''Much like the long-running debate over the GSP".

[imastawka]

Just to point out, also, it wasn't the experienced members advice that was

edited/removed by the mods.

So the mocking, bullying and sarcastic carry on was done by the OP

[4channel]

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@imastawka wrote:

Just to point out, also, it wasn't the experienced members advice that was

edited/removed by the mods.

So the mocking, bullying and sarcastic carry on was done by the OP

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Yeah and frogs can fly Tigermoth Bi-Planes. *Sigh*  Pull the other one. * Shakes head *

[imastawka]

Apparently frogs can fly Tiger Moth bi planes.

Spoiler

And I'm not pulling anything of yours.

As stated the only posts removed were not by experienced members of this forum.

[davewil1964]

That sounds reasonable. After all, dogs can fly Sopwith Camels.

[s.abuyer]

Your dead on the money there ...Fyou ebay 

[lyndal1838]

Dragging up a Zombie thread to add absolutely nothing of any interest....good one.

If you dislik ebay so much nothing is making you use it.

[padi*0409]

Maybe a better tactic for you would be to stop buying from Asian registered sellers with questionable feedback, which are the ones that you've left most of your negs and neutrals for...................

If you don't know how to find out where they are registered have a look at their feedback page.

[glenbankloel]

Sorry, but I stopped reading after 3 lines of Caps- My eyes hurt!

Caps are considered shouting on these discussion boards, so please just try to stay calm and state your case clearly and calmly.

You will find that many people will respond and there are many many helpful sellers on the boards who will give you advice. 

We all experience problems here on Ebay from time to time, and although it is tempting to vent and pound the keyboard at the height of your anger and dismay it is not helpful to the people who could give you some really relevent and sound advice.

If it is not too late, you must use the system to get your money back or the item replaced.

This not only puts the problem on record, so the powers that be can follow, the Chinese sellers are very very conscious of negative feedback, as you found out, and they will do their best to fix it. 

So, stand your ground and don't change your feedback until you have a resolution that you are happy with.

Good Luck