Boat arrivals

[*crikey*mate*]

Have any unauthorized boats carrying people with the intent to seek asylum in Australia arrived in the past few weeks?

[*ibis]

Prime Minister Tony Abbott as stopped the boats just like he said. a man of his word

what a great goverment the people elected!!!!!

next up the carbon tax

[**meep**]

What solutions do you propose to stopping people smuggling trade?

If the boats are turned back, I think we need to take more already assessed refugees from Indonesia.

[nero_bolt]

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@**meep** wrote:

If the boats are turned back, I think we need to take more already assessed refugees from Indonesia.

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WHY? We already tame more than any other country in the world per capita..... why should we take any more? 

Australia continues to have, per capita, the largest permanent refugee resettlement program in the world. 

But these refugees are not self-selected nor chosen by illegal people-smugglers - they are all genuine refugees, and none of them drowns on the way here.

[moonlyte]

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@**meep** wrote:

What solutions do you propose to stopping people smuggling trade?

If the boats are turned back, I think we need to take more already assessed refugees from Indonesia.

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I don't have the solution. But turning and towing back boats on the water without due process to determine refugee status is not a solution. 

On the surface it looks like the government has achieved it's aims of stopping the boats, but there are prices to be paid for this hardline approach. The genuine refugees pay the price. There is no humanity in this.

[**meep**]

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@moonlightbooksandgifts wrote:

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@**meep** wrote:

What solutions do you propose to stopping people smuggling trade?

If the boats are turned back, I think we need to take more already assessed refugees from Indonesia.

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I don't have the solution. But turning and towing back boats on the water without due process to determine refugee status is not a solution. 

On the surface it looks like the government has achieved it's aims of stopping the boats, but there are prices to be paid for this hardline approach. The genuine refugees pay the price. There is no humanity in this.

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 I think, if you are critical of something, you should at least have an idea of an alternative.

Nothing??

[**meep**]

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@nero_wulf wrote:

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@**meep** wrote:

If the boats are turned back, I think we need to take more already assessed refugees from Indonesia.

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WHY? We already tame more than any other country in the world per capita..... why should we take any more? 

Australia continues to have, per capita, the largest permanent refugee resettlement program in the world. 

But these refugees are not self-selected nor chosen by illegal people-smugglers - they are all genuine refugees, and none of them drowns on the way here.

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I understand that we are up there after the US and Canada i think, and I don't know what the intake could possibly be increased to or how the system works.  Could we take more from Indonesia and reduce the number from other countries?  Or take maybe even a couple of thousand more overall?  It doesn't seem fair when so many other countries do not even participate in the refugee resettlement program.   I would hate to be the one making decisions about who can and cannot come here.  

To answer your question as to why - above all, to resettle more refugees who have been waiting for many years, effectively, hopefuly, discouraging dangerous boat journeys.

[freakiness]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

he and gillard both advocated a regional centre for proccessing. abbott n morrison are hoping to do the same, but they need to wait for their apologies to malaysia (for one) to be accepted properly. they could have been a lot further along if they didn't play interference for years.

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The opposition fought every attempt at off shore processing the previous govt introduced.  the opposition were on the news every single day talking up and exaggerating the boat arrivals.  Hypocritical is a nice fit for them now they're in office.

[moonlyte]

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@**meep** wrote:

 I think, if you are critical of something, you should at least have an idea of an alternative.

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That is your opinion. I don't subscribe to it.

 Let me say this: People in power who lack humanity cause suffering.

That's all from me on this matter. You can have the last word.

[*ibis]

LLLers cant accept this goverment is doing what it was elected to do

why?

[lakeland27]

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@freakiness wrote:

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@lakeland27 wrote:

he and gillard both advocated a regional centre for proccessing. abbott n morrison are hoping to do the same, but they need to wait for their apologies to malaysia (for one) to be accepted properly. they could have been a lot further along if they didn't play interference for years.

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The opposition fought every attempt at off shore processing the previous govt introduced.  the opposition were on the news every single day talking up and exaggerating the boat arrivals.  Hypocritical is a nice fit for them now they're in office.

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 they in fact tripped themselves up with spoiler tactics, the proccess would be well advanced by now. couldn't allow labor to remove his wedge now could he ? now using Rudds scheme they claim success, when if they hadn't played politics it may have succeeded years ago .. and in a far more humane sustainable fashion.