Oh goodness - only one spoonful of humour in your coffee this morning.
@chameleon54 wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:It surprises me greatly Chameleon - that you have never read - The Dairy Telegraph.
Why ???................I think you have all made assumptions about me that are completely wrong.......I,m just a farmer from the bush who thinks about things a bit and has come to the conclusions I have based on common ( or uncommon ) sense rather than simply following some mantra pushed by one party or another.
I don't watch a lot of telly, I read quite a few non fiction books and the main newspapers I read are farming journals such as the Weekly Times and Stock Journal.
I sometimes listen to ABC radio ( current affairs ) when driving and rarely listen to commercial radio. If I do it is modern music based channels that the kids have left on when they have been in the car.
And despite what you all regularly suggest, I,m a genuine swinging voter who isn't that enthusiastic about either of the two major parties. I realise that with our political system one of the two is going to form government, so it pays to take an interest in what they are proposing. For the record I don't mind saying at this last election I placed Labor second to last and the Liberals last on my ballot paper. I definitely don't want Georgina Downer as my sitting member. She is just a blow in from Melbourne who's only interest is to follow the family dynasty into politics and blindly support LNP policy, regardless of the impact it will have at local level.
As I have mentioned in other posts in the last few days, my main concern with Labors policies at this election is that it is irresponsible to be running such a high taxing, high spending, reformist agenda when global and local economies are so fragile. The changes proposed would have almost certainly spooked both investors and home owners, ( consumers ) sending us into major recession. It was just another example of how Labor just don't get it when it comes to managing the economy and the importance of strategically timing major changes. Some of the plans where good and will eventually need to occur. Just not right now.
And the Liberals ???............Despite my concerns about Labors plans I wouldn't have been too upset if they had won this time. The Liberals have taken squeezing the poor, especially those on benefits to a whole new level. The compliance requirements for receiving newstart and the weekly amounts paid to those on benefits is frankly quite disgusting. No one can be expected to live on those amounts. In a wealthy country like Australia, we can do much better than we currently are and it has got to the point where we are going to need a change of government to bring some balance and common sense back into the social system.
I firmly believe in the natural political cycle where Labor and Liberal governments come and go. The Liberals repair the financial mess left by Labor governments and Labor governments clean up the mess left by the Liberals mean spirited, social policy.
It was probably time for a Labor government this time around as we desperately need improvements to social policy and even if the Liberals projected surplus does not eventuate it shows they are somewhere in the ballpark of balancing the books. Its a pity Labor stuffed it up so badly with financial incompetence and poor leadership before they even got to the ballot box.
@chameleon54 wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:It surprises me greatly Chameleon - that you have never read - The Dairy Telegraph.
Why ???................I think you have all made assumptions about me that are completely wrong.......I,m just a farmer from the bush who thinks about things a bit and has come to the conclusions I have based on common ( or uncommon ) sense rather than simply following some mantra pushed by one party or another.
I don't watch a lot of telly, I read quite a few non fiction books and the main newspapers I read are farming journals such as the Weekly Times and Stock Journal.
I sometimes listen to ABC radio ( current affairs ) when driving and rarely listen to commercial radio. If I do it is modern music based channels that the kids have left on when they have been in the car.
And despite what you all regularly suggest,
And while you are on the subject - I am not ALL - & - I have not REGULARLY SUGGESTED anything.
@chameleon54 wrote:On the question of the policies Labor took to this election, some of its policies where the right policies at the wrong time ( removing nergative gearing on established rental properties ) and others where simply morally wrong. The removal of claims for franking credits for self funded retirees was a classic example of envy politics and recieved the welcome it deserved. ( and was one of the reasons Labor lost )
They should've just stated that they were going to overhaul negative gearing and get house prices at a more
realistic level so ordinary Aussies can once again afford to buy a house (then try to deliver but state down the
track that it wasn't possible if they won the election).
IMHO negative gearing is the main reason Australia is in debt (over a 100 billion in lost tax has been lost to
negative gearing).
House are unaffordable,over priced and the top 10% per cent are wealthy people who benefit the most,(in 2016 Scott
Morrison , cited that numerous middle income groups (he mentioned teachers, nurses, and electricians) benefit in
larger numbers from negative gearing than finance managers and didn't bother explain that off course that would
be true as there are a lot more teachers, nurses, and electricians compared to finance managers).
Off course he didn't mention that top 10% as that would have destroyed his "reasoning".
@chameleon54 wrote:
@tezza2844 wrote:
@chameleon54 wrote:I suspect the highjacking of the media by the left ( and the ABC & The Project is a blatant example ) is one of the reasons the opinion polls got it so wrong. Those on the left side of politics have become rabid in shutting down debate, ( unless it favours their side.) and anyone who dares to challenge the left ideaology is torn to shreds in both the established and social media. The result is most people just quietly keep their opinions and intentions to themselves............Until polling day.
Happy to answer this one for you Tezza, as follows.........
I guess you have never never ever read The Dairy Telegraph......Never....., Courier Mail.......Never....., The Australian........Never...., watched Sky channel ......Watched it around a dozen times total. Its one of about 3 channels I can get at our remote farm....I usually watch the other two.......or listened to Alan Jones and Ray Hadley on Macquarie Radio.......Again never.....
The media you mention are all based on the eastern sea- board. We dont readily get most of that stuff in S.A, and frankly I wouldnt waste my time listening to people like Allen Jones and Ray Hadley anyway.. Soooo it would seem that once again your assumptions are completely wrong !!!
In relation to your claim that "I suspect the hijacking of the media by the left" I answered that you have never read The Daily Telegraph etc etc. and you agree with that, so how are my assumptions wrong. All the sources mentioned are very biased to the right, so bias is not a one sided thing. The main reasons why these polls are often wrong are they take a percentage of people usually on landlines very rarely on mobile phones, so their actual range of opinions is very limited. The time they are taken usually during the day, sometimes at night also limits the spread of opinions. If political parties take these polls as gospel then they showing very little imagination as to how voters really think..The main reasons these polls are promoted usually is (well not always) purely a financial selling of their products (people like to hear what they want to)
