on 23-01-2014 08:40 PM
I just saw Current Affair where they showed a car turn left into two cyclist. The car had his left indicator on - looked like he was travelling at very slow speed - the cyclist overtook the car on the car's left and he turned left into them. Was it his fault or the cyclist who overtook on the car's left?
They were talking about making a '0ne meter' law. I cannot see how this will work on many roads. To keep one meter away while overtaking a cyclist or group of cyclist would put you over the centre line in many cases - risking a head on collision??? It would be OK when there is a separate lane but SO MANY roads do not have enough room for it.
Opinions on this rule?? How would it work? Opinions on the Current Affair accident?
on 25-01-2014 04:36 PM
@love*today wrote:
Oh for g sake.......it's really easy to pass a cyclist with the one metre rule.
And if it's risky then **bleep**ing slow down and wait until it's safe to pass the cyclist
Leaving a 1 mt gap on a road with solid lines down the centre would be near impossible. Overtake leaving 1 mt would see a vehicle over the solid lines....risking a fine. That solid line could go for k's thus leaving a line of traffic behind a bike should that rider not move over into the gravel.
on 25-01-2014 04:53 PM
@twinkles**stars wrote:
@love*today wrote:
Oh for g sake.......it's really easy to pass a cyclist with the one metre rule.
And if it's risky then **bleep**ing slow down and wait until it's safe to pass the cyclistLeaving a 1 mt gap on a road with solid lines down the centre would be near impossible. Overtake leaving 1 mt would see a vehicle over the solid lines....risking a fine. That solid line could go for k's thus leaving a line of traffic behind a bike should that rider not move over into the gravel.
I agree with twinkles**stars.
on 25-01-2014 05:03 PM
@i-once-was-bump wrote:I will be grateful for another opinion of the van and the 2 bikes riders because if I am interpreting it incorrctly then I would like to know.
It looked to me like the driver just flicked on the indicater and immediately swung left. He either saw them and made a target of them or was careless and didn't even look.
on 25-01-2014 05:04 PM
@twinkles**stars wrote:
@love*today wrote:
Oh for g sake.......it's really easy to pass a cyclist with the one metre rule.
And if it's risky then **bleep**ing slow down and wait until it's safe to pass the cyclistLeaving a 1 mt gap on a road with solid lines down the centre would be near impossible. Overtake leaving 1 mt would see a vehicle over the solid lines....risking a fine. That solid line could go for k's thus leaving a line of traffic behind a bike should that rider not move over into the gravel.
I'm farily sure motorists are supposed to stay behind until safe to overtake.
In fact, I know a young person who failed their driving test because they crossed the double white line to overtake.
on 25-01-2014 05:07 PM
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@twinkles**stars wrote:
@love*today wrote:
Oh for g sake.......it's really easy to pass a cyclist with the one metre rule.
And if it's risky then **bleep**ing slow down and wait until it's safe to pass the cyclistLeaving a 1 mt gap on a road with solid lines down the centre would be near impossible. Overtake leaving 1 mt would see a vehicle over the solid lines....risking a fine. That solid line could go for k's thus leaving a line of traffic behind a bike should that rider not move over into the gravel.
I agree with twinkles**stars.
For once so do I and had that very situation this morning where there were a heap of bike riders on a counrty road and had to cross the double lines to pass them, all was well untill I came across a pack that were 3 wide taking up almost the whole lane doing all of 20KMH in a 100 zone
on 25-01-2014 05:07 PM
"I n 60 years of riding bike I have never damaged anybody's car. It is virtually impossible to cause a scratch such as you described by a bicycle. As there is no metal part that sticks out such a way that it could make long mark on a car while the bike is being ridden. The widest part are the handlebars and if they would come in contact with vehicle the rider would fall. So stop making up ridiculous scenarios. Get over this hate, or one day you will hurt somebody and end up in jail."
Are you telling me that NO BIKE has EVER hit a car and caused damage to the car? I know different.
And, it's nothing to do with hate. Bike riders SHOULD be forced to be registered - even if it only cost $10, but an Insurance is DEFINATELY necessary. You know Insurance - the thing that you have on your car (I assume) that covers you for ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE - that once-in-20-years occurence - that didn't plan on - that's why it's called AN ACCIDENT ??
"if they would come in contact with vehicle the rider would fall" - AND?? .... the rider would fall, but WHO would pay for the damage caused to the car??? Not the bike rider I'll bet. It doesn't take much to cause a scratch that would require a repaint of the damaged panel(s) - and that is NOT CHEAP.
Anyway, I don't want to play this game any more. PEACE.
on 25-01-2014 05:15 PM
@freakiness wrote:
@i-once-was-bump wrote:I will be grateful for another opinion of the van and the 2 bikes riders because if I am interpreting it incorrctly then I would like to know.
It looked to me like the driver just flicked on the indicater and immediately swung left. He either saw them and made a target of them or was careless and didn't even look.
Now, be honest, hands up those who, when turning left into a car park (at which time I would suppose you were in the correct lane to make that turn - had your indicator on, and had slowed to a reasonable speed to make that turn) - how many of you can swear that you check your LEFT side to see if there happens to be some other vehicle / bike travelling on your left??
on 25-01-2014 05:18 PM
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@freakiness wrote:
@i-once-was-bump wrote:I will be grateful for another opinion of the van and the 2 bikes riders because if I am interpreting it incorrctly then I would like to know.
It looked to me like the driver just flicked on the indicater and immediately swung left. He either saw them and made a target of them or was careless and didn't even look.
Now, be honest, hands up those who, when turning left into a car park (at which time I would suppose you were in the correct lane to make that turn - had your indicator on, and had slowed to a reasonable speed to make that turn) - how many of you can swear that you check your LEFT side to see if there happens to be some other vehicle / bike travelling on your left??
If I'd just passed a couple of cyclists I'd be very much on the look out for them.
I have been smashed into by a cyclist who was in the wrong. These 2 don't appear to be.
Lucky for my cyclist he was able to walk away.
on 25-01-2014 05:24 PM
"I have been smashed into by a cyclist who was in the wrong. Lucky for my cyclist he was able to walk away."
Smashed into by a cyclist?? No, you haven't. You're telling fibs. It never happens - according to some above ^"
Who paid for the damage?
on 25-01-2014 05:30 PM
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:"I have been smashed into by a cyclist who was in the wrong. Lucky for my cyclist he was able to walk away."
Smashed into by a cyclist?? No, you haven't. You're telling fibs. It never happens - according to some above ^"
Who paid for the damage?
Nobody said that at all.
It's none of your business who paid for the damage. It was an accident which the rule would not have prevented. The motorist in the video looks to be in the wrong.