Diary of our stinking Govt.

[boris1gary]

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

[vicr3000]

Mon

Yes, very true.

Telstra's chart is looking good as well.

[cherry*135]

Writing oxy moron instead of 'moron'.to avoid censure.

All eyes turn to Treasurer: budget do or die for Joe Hockey and Tony Abbott

...by far the greatest looming challenge is Treasurer Joe Hockey's second budget.

"It has to be a ball-tearer," says a spill backer.

Hockey was as much in the sights of the malcontents as his gaffe-prone boss.

An experienced player around the crossbench says the leadership debacle has, ironically, given the Abbott-Hockey partnership one last chance to sell the case for budget reform that they may not deserve.

"People see them as deceitful and because of that they stopped listening. The spill marked the lowest point for Abbott but I think it has actually acted as a circuit breaker. I don't think they have more than three months but people are probably willing to listen to the case one more time."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/all-eyes-turn-to-treasurer-budget-do-or-die-fo...

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@gleee58 wrote:

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In this instance oxy moron is used in a name calling sense.  I did wonder if the poster knows what the word meant.  It's the first time I've seen it used as an attack label.

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Yes, and it shows that many people would benefit from some more education  🙂

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

mm12

As for treasurers,  how about   "I promised you a surplus garden" Swan!

How about.. I promised you a surplus... Joe Hockey! .. more relevant today don't you think!

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The promise was for a surplus in the first year and a surplus in each and every year after.

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At least ALP spent money on something productive, Hocky]ey just throws it out of the window

[cherry*135]

Tony Abbott's leadership is going backwards

The day after Tony Abbott's "near-death experience", federal Coalition MPs from South Australia were treated to a dose of the more consultative and collegial approach that was intended to define "good government" from that day forth.

Five MPs were invited to fly with Defence Minister Kevin Andrews on a VIP plane from Canberra to Adelaide to reassure constituents that the Adelaide-based defence shipbuilder, ASC, would be able to bid for a slice of one of the biggest defence contracts in history.

When they took their seats, they were careful to leave one vacant in the expectation that Andrews would want to join them and discuss how he intended to proceed.

Imagine, then, their surprise when the minister chose to spend the 90-minute flight with an adviser in a separate section of the plane.

What followed was one of the more bizarre media conferences in recent memory. Andrews insisted those wanting a share of the submarine action would be subject to a "competitive evaluation process", but could not explain what this term meant. As my colleague Tony Wright expressed it, he took 2000 words to say nothing that made any sense at all.

On the return flight, the minister again sat with his adviser, away from the MPs.

What was baffling was why Abbott and Andrews did not simply explain that the process that stalled under Labor would follow the template successfully used in other major defence contracts, such as the building of the Anzac frigates or the minehunters.

Why didn't they say it would begin with a "project definition study" where designer-builders in countries that are acceptable to Australia on security grounds (such as Japan) are funded to pitch for the first batch of submarines on the basis that they will be built in Australia with a fixed price? After all, such an approach would also be consistent with the Coalition's pre-election promise that "work on the replacement of the current submarine fleet will centre around the South Australian shipyards".

Abbott's problem is that the number of MPs who have grave doubts about his capacity to recover is much bigger than the 39 who backed the spill motion. While there is a consensus that he will be given every opportunity to turn around his fortunes, there is an expectation that Malcolm Turnbull will take over if the polls do not improve.

This should mean Abbott can focus on the preparation of the two policies he expects to change perceptions – on families and small business – as well as the budget, without worrying about receiving a delegation, but it does not guarantee it. Some suggest the issue could be revisited on March 2.

The second failure this week concerns Abbott's promise of a more consultative approach, a promise underpinned by a commitment to meet regularly with the 17 chairs of backbench committees, to give them direct access to the cabinet and to personally answer phone calls from all Coalition MPs. This was in large part a response to a backlash against the influence of Abbott's chief of staff, Peta Credlin, in meddling in appointments, controlling access to information and the PM, and generally making life harder for ministers and backbenchers. 

...So why, ask some MPs, did she slip in the back of the room and sit through Abbott's first post-spill heart-to-heart meeting with the chairs of his backbench committees?

The final reason Abbott's prospects have deteriorated is his performance in the Parliament on Thursday, where he clearly decided the best way of shoring up support in the Liberal party room (and especially the right) was to revert to the attack mode that has delivered him most success.

If all this buoyed the troops, the question is whether it will improve or damage Abbott's standing in the electorate. After all, this is where the troops will look for guidance as they weigh up whether to stick with Tony in the weeks ahead.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/tony-abbotts-leadership-is-going-backwards-20150213-13e2ug.h...

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@vicr3000 wrote:
Your interpretation glee. Since the post wasn't directed at you,
It wasn't an attack, it was a general observation.

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Mon

And oxy morons have the gall to call a waste of money. Paying for higher education for people who have no intention to use it or pay for it is a Huge waste.

It was name calling and it was a swipe at a poster who has become the target of similar nasty personal comments.

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Correct, and I have a nice little correspondence that proves that!

How is Hockey going to get out of the mess he is in, still wants to pass those dud Budget proposals..

[monman12]

"Who was it that said  there is no shortage of jobs?"    Yes A3,  who did say  "there is no shortage of jobs?"

Your earlier answer makes little sense:

"Someone on this thread who thinks you can boast about the number of jobs created but not balance that out with the number of jobs lost (in the last 16 months in particular!)

Full of hot air some

You should be sorry about that date!!! Hardly relevant to the rising unemployment rate in the last 16 months!!.

Sorry, about what date?

Who has been boasting?

Who said  there is no shortage of jobs?

You also want to now dictate "balance",  within this thread  ?  "you have to be dreamin" 

[gleee58]

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And you accuse others of making no sense...  Struth ruth!

[debra9275]

seriously MM the whole ASX has gone up heaps, due to low interest rates and the lower dollar. (except for mining stocks due to lower commodity prices) TLS they say is over-valued. Medibank could get to $3

I'm not too worried about the drop in commodity prices as I only paid $8.50 for my BHP shares and I have had quite a large Div yield for that stock anyway

there are stocks that have trading ranges, newscorp used to be one that I traded often, it would go up or down a dollar a share in a matter of weeks.... so medibank?? i still say meh!   ( sorry)

[cherry*135]

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@monman12 wrote:

"Who was it that said  there is no shortage of jobs?"    Yes A3,  who did say  "there is no shortage of jobs?"

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The posts are in this thread, no need to repost them.. if you want to disregard any reference to them fine by me. There are other posts by others recently that don't make sense.. look forward to you taking them to task also.

Stand by my comment about job creation + job losses in the same period.

That is a comment about unemployment rates, job creation, job losses.. nothing to do with dictating anything.

If ,for a made up example, a country has 5000 jobs created and 15 000 jobs lost.. just wanting to brag about the job creation and not mention the job losses at the same time is misleading... which is something the current Govt is very good at.

Deflection from the real issues with the current PM & The Govt is a poor effort too.