Do you have a tattoo, your a criminal in QLD

[the_hawk*]

Over-the-top bikie laws make ‘criminals’ of anyone with tattoo

http://www.cla.asn.au/News/bikie-laws-criminalise-innocents-in-qld/

[cherry*135]

23 October 2013

FactCheck: will the Queensland bikie laws affect innocent riders?

Verdict

The legislation specifically targets people who are associated with named outlaw motorcycle gangs. But its definition of this association is loose and allows opportunities for innocent people to be caught by the legislation.

In the end, the statement that law abiding motorbike riders have “nothing to worry about” cannot be claimed with any certainty.

http://theconversation.com/factcheck-will-the-queensland-bikie-laws-affect-innocent-riders-19329

[azureline**]

• Academic rigour, journalistic flair

[freakiness]

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@just_me_karen wrote:
It says nothing about tattoos making you a criminal. It says the police asked people with tattoos if they were a bikie. So what?

So many bikie gangs are into crime, it's about time they took a hard line to stamp it out. The criminal ones give the genuine bike riders a bad name.

Any bike owner who doesn't want to be targeted should give up their membership or join a club that isn't outlawed. Not all bike clubs are outlawed.

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The video I saw yesterday doesn't back that up. The lone biker was accosted at a servo by numerous police officers, at least one of who had arms full of tattoos, and he was harrasssed.  There is no other apt description when a dozen police with 5 vehicles were involved.

Unions meetings will be the next target. Make it unlawful for people to meet in groups and everyone at a stop work meeting will be open for arrest.

[polocross58]

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No matter how they try to spin it to save face

the tatts mob

are so yesterday

[spotweldersfriend]

My tattoos scare the b'jesus out of the cops.

[monman12]

The heat is getting to me here in Melbourne,  I empathise with JMK.

TH : "Over-the-top bikie laws make ‘criminals’ of anyone with tattoo"
Well the somewhat "outraged" author  actually wrote: " Among anyone under about 30, tattoos are a dozen a dime, so that you will now – officially – be victimized by the Queensland Police if you have a tattoo (and in a pub  with 2 others!).

I notice that CLA has in the past been active in  "bikies" rights:
"Civil Liberties Australia published three articles indicating concerns at the consequences of having a mandatory requirement  for laws mandating the wearing of helmets for cyclists."

However TH,  I think it is knee jerk reaction to some particuarily nasty jerks. What do CS Qlders think?

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[illicit69]

Bans on Street Protests in Queensland has already been done, good 'ole Joh Bjelke-Petersen instigated that one in the '80s, so here we go again with our equally 'brain-dead' Premier Campbell Newman.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/cabinet-papers/street-marches-ban/story-e6frgd9o-1111118449...

[just_me_karen]

It'll only affect people who hang around with crim bikies...how is that a bad thing? If they choose thugs as friends, they'd better toughen up or get better friends.

I suspect some of them get the tatts, bike and ugly leathers just to look tough, but are feeble in heart and mind.

and if they question a few tattooed bike riders, so what? If they're honest citizens, they'd put up with the cranky police in hope of ridding society of the criminal element.

Then the good ones can ride in peace again...I think it's all going to be repealed in three years.

[the_great_she_elephant]

It'll only affect people who hang around with crim bikies...how is that a bad thing? If they choose thugs as friends, they'd better toughen up or get better friends.

I wish that were true, Karen, but the young man in the video mentioned by Freaki was not hanging around with anyone ,and the motorcycle club whose badge he wore on his leather vest was not one proscribed as an 'outlaw gang. He was on his own and had simply pulled into a servo to refuel. I counted 4 police cars and 7 policemen around him - and after he had answered all the questions put to him by the wpc he was then made to answer the exact same ones all over again  by the sergeant. He told the police that he had been pulled over 21 times and taken to court twice for supposed infringements - both of which had been thrown out of court. 

He has since received an apology from (I believe) the Queensland Police Minister.

[imastawka]

Karen, you've obviously never been 'interviewed' by the police.  Even if you've

done nothing, there is a certain element of power that some members like to

enforce.  They can be very intimidating at the best of times