@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@*lady*godiva* wrote:
I know that Australia is a place of religious tolerance, but whoever wrote that, I don't think they had in mind the kinds of **bleep** these guys are doing. i think that its about a whole lot more than Halal food labels and where a person can wear a burqa.
Of course it is more than just about halal and burqas.
But cowards take the easy way out and it is easier to attack the type of food a family eats and even easier to attack a woman in general particularly if she is dressed differently.
I am not so sure about that. I spnt quite q while forming a post, but deleted it because I was finding it difficult to enunciate what I had concluded after reading a few articles (and yes, I made a point of avoiding the biased sources)
I'll have another go.
ISIS are the bad apples. Unfortunately, it is their practises which are dominating the media and "educating" the public about Islam. It is they that are the representation of what Islam is. Most of us might have learned about Islam for a week or so back in primary school when we were learning about religions of the world. But it is a religion and a culture very different to what Australians (in all of its varieties) are used to.
This terrorism stuff, it has rocked the world and brought home how close it is to us now. Until 9/11, it really was something that happened to "other people". Out of sight out of mind, kind of thing.
Then we learn about the goals of this organisation, and their activities of invasion and occupancy of other countries. They aren't even a country themselves, just a group. Yet they manage to incapacitate and overthrow entire countries.
Then we see an increasing number of Muslims in Australia - this in itself is relatively new, and their reception is no different to that of the chinese, italians, greeks before them - scared of em at fist, until we get used to them and they're different ways.
Fast forward that to that 17 year old Australian boy who is making threats to Australia after joining ISIS.
I can see how people might be wary of Islam and its perceived invasiveness of Australia. I think I understand why people want to discourage the acceptance of the muslim community whilst this ISIS group is so active. Logic lets me understand that the two are not related, but .......
It feels like the Muslim community is trying to change our landscape and have us adjust to their ways (generally speaking) and they really only have such small numbers so far, imagine when the numbers swell to 10 - 15% of the population, and making so many changes so soon.
I think there is a real fear, on the back of ISIS that they want to take over and control and implement their cultural values and religious beliefs on all of us.
Perhaps, people would be more accepting if it weren't for the activities of ISIS highlighting the very extremes of what Islam represents. Maybe a softer, slower and more gentle approach would be more apt in the present climate.
we are a nation only one decade away from the teachings of Alan Peace and Body Language. Now, we are suddenly faced with a culture that wears coverings that goes against everything we have been conditioned to. We have been conditioned that this is characteristic of deceptive and nefarious intentions. Our universities educate us in the fields of behavioural science and profiling.
It becomes scary when "one of our own" a 17 year old joins ISIS and makes videos such as he did. How did he become affiliated with such an organisation? How do we know who is under that cultural clothing. I refer now back to 9/11 and the pilots who actually resided in the US prior to their hijacking.
That's where I think the whole aversion to Halal labels are coming into play. It is a symbol that "they are taking over", "announcing their presence"
Then there is also the uncertainty of asylum seekers over the last 10 years (and I suppose immigrants) and how for a long time, they wwere assimilated into society before their checks were complete.
I hope some of that makes some sense - I know it is disjointed.
I know it doesn't seem rational to all, but i can understand why some people are wary.
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