on 01-11-2014 01:14 AM
I went to 7-Eleven tonight to get a bite to eat, grabbed a Four'n Twenty pie and gosh it was halal.
Traitors! How can they do this?
I put it back in the warmer then drove to a local Italian restaurant and we had pasta carbonara.
02-11-2014 09:16 PM - edited 02-11-2014 09:19 PM
I am pretty sure that cheese is made from live cows/animals, I don't think that how they are eventually slaughtered is a consideration for cheese production, is it? I'm leaning towards some other factors that influence their product whist they are alive.
I already posted about this above, you may have missed it. Cheese has animal derived rennet in it (made from stomach lining of young ruminants).
The issue for halal, is how those animals were slaughtered.
There is also artificial rennet that is used in cheese. Which is suitable for vegeterians.
In cheese making, for milk to separate into curds and whey (curdling), the process requires the addition of rennet. Rennet contains the enzyme chymosin. Rennet can be sourced from the abomasum (fourth stomach) of newly-born calves where the chymosin aids digestion and absorption of milk. Adult cows do not have this enzyme. Chymosin is extracted from slaughtered calves by washing and drying the stomach lining, which is cut into small pieces and macerated in a solution of boric acid/brine for 4-5 days. Three of the major sources of protease for coagulating milk are from animal sources, veal calves, adult cows and pigs, the other three are from fungi.
on 02-11-2014 10:00 PM
well, I didn't miss your post. I responded to a post that came before i saw your post.
Thanks for the info
I'll have to do some reasearch though - that info is confusing me.
One part says rennet derived from baby cows, because adult cows don't have it. Then it mentions pigs, which don't have 4 stomachs (rennet is in the 4th stomach)
Is it rennet or any protease?
and it sounds disgusting. Why on earth would Little Miss Muffet curdle her milk before eating it? The spider was falsely accused. Little Miss Muffett ran away because she had to throw up!
I've made boccini and mozzerella before, but never gave a thought to what was in the junket tablets. Now I know. I wonder if they have halal junket.
02-11-2014 10:24 PM - edited 02-11-2014 10:29 PM
Yes, it does sound disgusting (the animal rennet). i just quoted the first link I found on that, there are probably better explanations out there. I think that was a US link.
The cheese ( tasty, major brand) we have has enzyme rennet (non-animal) in it.
Junket Tablet Dessert Mix
Salt, Calcium Lactate, Corn Starch, Rennet, Tricalcium Phosphate, Calcium Stearate (Food Grade).
No wonder I never wanted to eat (and didn't) Junket pudding as a child.
on 02-11-2014 11:03 PM
@am*3 wrote:Yes, it does sound disgusting (the animal rennet). i just quoted the first link I found on that, there are probably better explanations out there. I think that was a US link.
The cheese ( tasty, major brand) we have has enzyme rennet (non-animal) in it.
Junket Tablet Dessert Mix
Salt, Calcium Lactate, Corn Starch, Rennet, Tricalcium Phosphate, Calcium Stearate (Food Grade).
No wonder I never wanted to eat (and didn't) Junket pudding as a child.
do you eat eggs? they come out of a chickens bum.
what i find disgusting is eating numbers.
02-11-2014 11:31 PM - edited 02-11-2014 11:32 PM
I do find eggs creepy. At least they dont come with halal labels lol.
What? Eating numbers? Additives?
on 02-11-2014 11:46 PM
what i find disgusting is eating numbers.
There's a joke there - but I ain't touchin' it
on 02-11-2014 11:55 PM
I thought they were talking about number ones and number twos in reference to the egg coming from the same place the chook wees and poos and has sex. Cloaca is Latin for sewer. Inside an egg is sterile though and I've never licked the outside of an egg.
on 03-11-2014 12:28 AM
@*lady*godiva* wrote:It doesn't happen like that in Australia anymore.
That's just too cruel. Only the cows we export to countries less advanced than Australia are subjected to the likes of that now.
We have "Smart Beef" in Australia. Meat just grows on styrofoam trays, already portioned and wrapped ready to be stacked on supermarket shelves. Just a quick wipe over and they're good to go. It took them ages to teach the cows how to link their own sausages. But I surveyed 3 cows just before and they said that once they got the hang of it, it was easier than squeezing out the bottles with the milk in them.
They don't have to squeeze out the plastic bottles we have these days, they blow up like a balloon as they fill.
on 03-11-2014 12:32 AM
@gleee58 wrote:
@*lady*godiva* wrote:It doesn't happen like that in Australia anymore.
That's just too cruel. Only the cows we export to countries less advanced than Australia are subjected to the likes of that now.
We have "Smart Beef" in Australia. Meat just grows on styrofoam trays, already portioned and wrapped ready to be stacked on supermarket shelves. Just a quick wipe over and they're good to go. It took them ages to teach the cows how to link their own sausages. But I surveyed 3 cows just before and they said that once they got the hang of it, it was easier than squeezing out the bottles with the milk in them.
They don't have to squeeze out the plastic bottles we have these days, they blow up like a balloon as they fill.
norty
on 03-11-2014 12:35 AM
I think those cows are having a lend of us. Whatever it is they are putting in those bottles, it ain't milk.
I've had milk in my fridge for a month past its use by date and it is still uncurdled.
Unnatural I say