on 01-11-2014 01:14 AM
I went to 7-Eleven tonight to get a bite to eat, grabbed a Four'n Twenty pie and gosh it was halal.
Traitors! How can they do this?
I put it back in the warmer then drove to a local Italian restaurant and we had pasta carbonara.
03-11-2014 02:55 PM - edited 03-11-2014 02:56 PM
HALAL = ISLAMIC SHARIA LAW COMPLIANT
Now that more Aussies know this, more halal products will be boycotted.
I hope all halal companies go broke!
Spread the message lets make everyone aware.
98% of us can rule the 2%
on 03-11-2014 02:59 PM
@lind9650 wrote:What irks me is not halal labelling. I undertsand that some religions have certain food consumption rules. What annoys me is the same as with the Heart Foundation tick, the manufacturers have to pay for the priviledge to use the tick. If the muslim community, same as the heart foundation want the people to eat healthy and permitted food, the labelling should be free of charge to guide the consumer.
After all being said, we, the consumer have to pay for all this nonsense.
I am more concerned about the amount of chemicals, pesticides, artificial hormones, colourings, flavours etc. are in the production of our food. Imports that come from places that have no laws or control over such things and are full of poison.
Last week I bought some grapes, imported from the USA. The plastic bag clearly stated a warning that the grapes may have been in contact with sulfur. Of course they have. They spray the fruit to make it last longer and washing is not going to get rid of it. Sulfur penetrates the skin of any fruit and vegetable. So my grapes went into the bin.
Those are the things we should be concerned about, more than a silly lable.
Erica
None of those services are free, someone has to be employed to do those jobs....................... how else will it get done? who will pay the wages?
on 03-11-2014 03:07 PM
@ufo_investigations wrote:HALAL = ISLAMIC SHARIA LAW COMPLIANT
Now that more Aussies know this, more halal products will be boycotted.
I hope all halal companies go broke!
Spread the message lets make everyone aware.
98% of us can rule the 2%
I think you'll find that that 2% you mention comprises those Australians who actually live by the islamic Faith not the total number of Australians who accept that it is Ok for them todo so.
on 03-11-2014 03:16 PM
some of the figures being thrown around for the cost of accreditation just aren't true
on 03-11-2014 03:21 PM
@*mrgrizz* wrote:some of the figures being thrown around for the cost of accreditation just aren't true
I think most of us know that......................... but unsure how to find the correct info.
on 03-11-2014 04:00 PM
@bushies.girl wrote:As another poster went to great lengths to point out, I was unaware of Halal labeling, I don't spend hours checking food labels. She even took the trouble to point out a typo I had made ( Oh to be so PERFECT ) I was open minded UNTIL her bullying started, then of course the "band wagon" had to join in, that was enough for me to think about those who support Halal labeling, far more closely and make my decision to avoid it.
Sorry, but I want to say "get a grip" but that might be interpreted as bullying. Disagreeing with someone is not bullying, nor is someone quoting what you've said, unless they've edited and taken completely out of context. Most people don't "jump on the bandwagon", it's just that by nature of a forum people read and post. If there are multiple people reading and posting at the same time they just happen to independently posting in response to the post/thread at the same time. It's not a matter of joining in on the band wagon or bullying, unless it gets extremely nasty, which is not what I've noticed here.
on 03-11-2014 04:07 PM
@ufo_investigations wrote:HALAL = ISLAMIC SHARIA LAW COMPLIANT
Now that more Aussies know this, more halal products will be boycotted.
I hope all halal companies go broke!
Spread the message lets make everyone aware.
98% of us can rule the 2%
It's not only about the 2%. Our exporters need to comply with the requirements of their market places. To export to the USA, for example, our products must comply with their standards.
on 03-11-2014 04:14 PM
Halal = permitted.
The labelling and marketing is ruled by the company profit margin................. no customers, no profits, no company.
on 03-11-2014 04:17 PM
@ufo_investigations wrote:HALAL = ISLAMIC SHARIA LAW COMPLIANT
Now that more Aussies know this, more halal products will be boycotted.
I hope all halal companies go broke!
Spread the message lets make everyone aware.
98% of us can rule the 2%
mmmmm....... campaigning to damage our economy, not very Team Australia
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-28/halal-food-nothing-to-fear/5844634
Exports could suffer warns Halal executive
Food certified as Halal is big business for Australian companies who export to countries like the Middle East, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore, Egypt and Qatar.
Dr Khan is blunt about what could happen to the export industry if protests against Halal become louder.
"If we didn't have this Halal certification, Australia wouldn't be selling high-quality products to the overseas market," Dr Khan said.
"If the importing countries get the message that Australia is basically anti-Muslim, anti-Halal and anti-Islam, they'll go somewhere else, believe me.
"There are 123 abattoirs all across Australia, if they lose the [export] market, that's not a healthy thing to think about."
Dr Khan said clearer information surrounding the Halal certification process in Australia would help, but it has to occur at the highest level, rather than from small organisations like Halal Australia.
"This hasn’t been dealt with appropriately," he said.
"The government should step in and clarify this kind of misconception in the Australian population and then it can stop right there.
"It's not healthy for the national interests or the economic interests.
"Creating this kind of phobia is not helpful for anyone, and our children will suffer in the future."
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http://www.halal-australia.com.au/clarifying-misconceptions-about-halal/
Are Australian consumers who purchase halal certified goods paying a “Islamic” religious tax?
Consumers should be made aware that statements such as these are sensationalist rumours designed to incite fear amongst Australian consumers. Such statements are misleading and unequivocally incorrect.
Halal Australia has no power to enforce any tax, religious or otherwise, on the citizens of Australia under any circumstances.
Companies that seek halal certification pay a flat fee that covers the cost of site accreditation and product certification and periodic audits as needed. These fees are in line with those that companies pay to have other elements of their business certified and audited each year to help meet the requirements of other dietary needs, such as organic, vegetarian and kosher, or to ensure compliance from a quality assurance (QMS) and food safety (HACCP) point of view. To the best of our knowledge, the fees paid by companies to have their products certified are not carried over to the consumer.
Does Halal certification benefit the Australian economy?
The additional income produced by a company that gains halal certification and accreditation belongs to the company (not Halal Australia) and contributes millions of dollars to the Australian economy every year – far more than anything that is paid for the certification itself. Having products halal certified also allows domestic businesses to expand their reach by giving them the opportunity to export products to international markets, giving these businesses a competitive advantage allowing for even greater benefit to the Australian economy.
In conclusion:
We unequivocally refute the rumours made against halal certification bodies by anti-halal campaigners, and invite the public to consider whether the anti-halal campaign is based on real facts or is simply a hate campaign that does not care much for facts at all. The lack of verified facts to support allegations therefore renders the very purpose for this campaign null and void. To understand the real underlying reasons (and hidden agendas) behind such campaigns, one should instead consider the role that anti-Muslim hatred plays in creating this fear and labelling everything that is identifiably linked to the Islamic faith as a conspiracy or threat.
We abide by the laws of this country and are proud to offer a service that allows the Australian economy to benefit substantially.
Any claims to the contrary are false and only aim to disrupt efforts to maintain harmony and peace in the greater Australian society. It takes very little effort to spread false information on the internet, and much greater effort to verify information and consider the facts before coming to an informed conclusion. We hope you always choose the latter.
on 03-11-2014 04:48 PM
Closing down halal exports is the best thing that could happen to this country!
I will celebrate it with a grilled bacon & cheese sandwich. 😉