Four'n Twenty Pies are now halal

I went to 7-Eleven tonight to get a bite to eat, grabbed a Four'n Twenty pie and gosh it was halal.

 

Traitors!  How can they do this?

 

I put it back in the warmer then drove to a local Italian restaurant and we had pasta carbonara.

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

HALAL = ISLAMIC SHARIA LAW COMPLIANT

 

Now that more Aussies know this, more halal products will be boycotted.

I hope all halal companies go broke!

 

Spread the message lets make everyone aware.

 

98% of us can rule the 2%

 

 


Well, none have since 1996.

 

They appear to be doing extemely well actually, with export markets, example: Byron Bay Cookie company, annual turnover of $13m approx. (despite 6mths of harrassment from anti-halal supporters on their facebook account)

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for christians , the teachings are quite clear if thats the grounds for objection.

''

"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. "Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.'"

Jesus did not teach his disciples to break the Law, for since he had not yet died and been resurrected, the Law was still in effect. However, he did tell his disciples that his death and resurrection was the beginning of a new covenant (Lk 22:20). This new covenant removed the distinctions between clean and unclean that were made in the Law, as a vision from God demonstrated to Peter in Acts 10:9-16:

About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."

"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."

The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."

This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.

The immediate purpose of this vision was to teach Peter that it was alright for him to associate with "unclean" Gentiles and share the Gospel with them (Acts 10:17-11:18). As a result of the vision and the subsequent salvation of Gentiles, the church realized that the ceremonial laws given by Moses were no longer in effect (Acts 15:5-11). Thus, the idea that all foods are now clean did not originate with Paul, but with God himself. http://www.rationalchristianity.net/kosher.html

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A commerical decision. More production/sales = more people employed.. who wouldn't want that?

 

The halal food market is expected to be worth US$1.6 trillion globally by 2018. With an average growth rate of 6.9 percent a year, it’s a sector that cannot be ignored, especially by food manufacturers keen to make their mark internationally.

 

While many manufacturers may question the value of gaining certification in Australia, where the Muslim community represents a relatively small proportion of the nation’s population, those companies looking to broaden their horizon beyond Australia’s shores would be well versed in the importance of meeting halal’s criteria.

 

What is halal?
Derived from the Koran, Islam’s book of faith, the word ‘halal’ literally means ‘lawful’ or ‘acceptable’.

 

Why gain certification?

 

From a manufacturing point of view, it gives the manufacturer or the producer of the product more opportunities for sales of their product globally, if it’s halal certified.

 

“There are markets around the world that you can’t export to unless you have halal certification. So those would include the Middle East, Indonesia, Malaysia and to some extent Singapore.

 

However, what we’ve found is that our halal certification is advantageous to all markets we export to around the world, even though to clear customs you don’t need it.

 

A lot of companies are happy to seek certification because they see it as adding value to the company, something that bring a lot of money and that also can increase the employability of Australians. Companies can sell a lot more products than they would normally sell [if they’re halal] and that obviously increases the demand for employment.

 

“It’s a win/win situation for everybody. Even if one person is employed by a company, and that person is a bread winner and either he or she can support their family in the halal way – halal means in a lawful way – it’s good.”

 

http://www.foodmag.com.au/features/halal-certification-a-gateway-to-export-markets

 

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

Closing down halal exports is the best thing that could happen to this country!

 

I will celebrate it with a grilled bacon & cheese sandwich. 😉


Do you realize how much food Australia exports and how many the export industry employs?

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

Closing down halal exports is the best thing that could happen to this country!

 

I will celebrate it with a grilled bacon & cheese sandwich. 😉


I don't want the scientologists to take over this country either,

 

Does that mean we should  ban the pancake parlour too?

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for christians , the teachings are quite clear if thats the grounds for objection.

 

 

not sure about that.  some christians

believe its ok to eat halal - some dont

and will back it up with bible passages.

 

just like some muslims believe drinking

alcohol is a sin while others believe

drinking in moderation is ok.

 

just like some buddhists believe it is against

their beliefs to eat halal food which has been

prepared according to muslim scriptures.

 

it is not the word "permitted" that they object to -

it is what makes it permitted.

 

is there a point in trying to convince others what

they should believe?  where would you

draw the line ?

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@anto-dorca wrote:

for christians , the teachings are quite clear if thats the grounds for objection.

''

"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. "Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.'"

Jesus did not teach his disciples to break the Law, for since he had not yet died and been resurrected, the Law was still in effect. However, he did tell his disciples that his death and resurrection was the beginning of a new covenant (Lk 22:20). This new covenant removed the distinctions between clean and unclean that were made in the Law, as a vision from God demonstrated to Peter in Acts 10:9-16:

About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."

"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."

The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."

This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.

The immediate purpose of this vision was to teach Peter that it was alright for him to associate with "unclean" Gentiles and share the Gospel with them (Acts 10:17-11:18). As a result of the vision and the subsequent salvation of Gentiles, the church realized that the ceremonial laws given by Moses were no longer in effect (Acts 15:5-11). Thus, the idea that all foods are now clean did not originate with Paul, but with God himself. http://www.rationalchristianity.net/kosher.html


The idea that all foods are now clean may have originated with God, but so did free choice and the ability to make decisions. That may have been His intention, but He didn't stop man from introducing contaminates into food, chemically modifying food, abusing the food  etc etc

 

God may have made food clean, but He never prevented man from making it unclean.

 

Infact, was the food really clean? There were only two of each animal loaded onto the Ark, and we now know that when close relatives mate that genetic abnormalities are possible. So if a pair of elephants had 2 children, eventually, in order to increase the population to the numbers of today, there had to be some pretty close personal encounters amongst famiy members. God was the original scientist. He knows everything. He designed it. How could he not have known this? Why did he not know this when only commissioning one Ark. Why didn't he commission 3 or 4 Arks so he could load 6 or 8 of each kind and water down the gene pool a bit?

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

for christians , the teachings are quite clear if thats the grounds for objection.

 

 

not sure about that.  some christians

believe its ok to eat halal - some dont

and will back it up with bible passages.

 

just like some muslims believe drinking

alcohol is a sin while others believe

drinking in moderation is ok.

 

just like some buddhists believe it is against

their beliefs to eat halal food which has been

prepared according to muslim scriptures.

 

it is not the word "permitted" that they object to -

it is what makes it permitted.

 

is there a point in trying to convince others what

they should believe?  where would you

draw the line ?


 i'm not out to convince anyone of anything on a chatboard, the post makes a valid point however. personally i disregard all of it.

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*lady*godiva wrote: "Infact, was the food really clean? There were only two of each animal loaded onto the Ark, and we now know that when close relatives mate that genetic abnormalities are possible. So if a pair of elephants had 2 children, eventually, in order to increase the population to the numbers of today, there had to be some pretty close personal encounters amongst famiy members. God was the original scientist. He knows everything. He designed it. How could he not have known this? Why did he not know this when only commissioning one Ark. Why didn't he commission 3 or 4 Arks so he could load 6 or 8 of each kind and water down the gene pool a bit?"

 

 

2 of each animal? 

 

The way I read it : a pair of each unclean animals; and 7 pairs of each clean animal. 

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thats a good point . the ark story has many a hole in it.

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