on 01-11-2014 01:14 AM
I went to 7-Eleven tonight to get a bite to eat, grabbed a Four'n Twenty pie and gosh it was halal.
Traitors! How can they do this?
I put it back in the warmer then drove to a local Italian restaurant and we had pasta carbonara.
on 03-11-2014 05:02 PM
@ufo_investigations wrote:Closing down halal exports is the best thing that could happen to this country!
I will celebrate it with a grilled bacon & cheese sandwich. 😉
Whydo you think it would it be "the best thing?"
Is it because you believe everyone in Australia should adhere to your religious objections to halal products?
Is it because you believe halal certification funds terrorism
Is it because you believe Muslims living in this country should not have the right to practice their religious customs even if they do not clash with Australian Law?
Is it because you have an irrational hatred of anyone who is "different"?
Is it all of the above?
Is it some of the above?
on 03-11-2014 05:10 PM
@ufo_investigations wrote:Closing down halal exports is the best thing that could happen to this country!
I will celebrate it with a grilled bacon & cheese sandwich. 😉
There will be a lot of businesses - both Australian-owned and foreign-owned - and their Australian workers - that would strongly disagree with you.
03-11-2014 05:11 PM - edited 03-11-2014 05:12 PM
@ ufo_investigations wrote:Closing down halal exports is the best thing that could happen to this country!
I will celebrate it with a grilled bacon & cheese sandwich. 😉
How is that a good thing?
our economy will suffer, jobs will be lost.
on 03-11-2014 05:14 PM
@am*3 wrote:Those are the sort of comments that are spread around.. rubbish.
A private business makes it's own commerical decisions (nothing to do with religion). Don't like their decisions (e.g. using palm oil) don't buy their products.. simple.
Halal label has been on Vegemite for nearly 5 years, it is still a very profitable item.
Bega Cheese halal certificaton since 1996 - hasn't gone broke yet!
.......
For people who don't approve of halal certification and wish to boycott the products that have halal labels on them buy not buying them that is fine. Even writing a non-abusive letter to the company saying they don't approve of the halal certification is fine.
Why should they (the halal label objecters) then target the company publicly with their spamming of their business facebook pages (which also involves abusive, bigotted comments).. just because that company has made a commercial decision to have their products (or some of them) halal certified (especially for their export markets)?
If others are happy to continue to buy Vegemite etc, with halal labels on them what right do the halal label objectors have to try and interfere with their choice?
Why doesn't this apply to products such as that singlet with the Australian flag and the slogan "if you don't like it, leave"?
KMart (or whoever) made a commercial decision to stock a particular product. The objectors did target the company publicly, some in the abusive manner that you describe, to such an extent that they withdrew the product from sale.
Some were happy to buy that product. What right did the objectors have to try and interfere with their choice?
on 03-11-2014 05:23 PM
ladygodiva, Woolworths made a decision to withdraw it from it's shelves. Woolies didn't cite abuse or anything else except the singlet was "totally unacceptable" and "it should never have been allowed on our shelves".
03-11-2014 05:23 PM - edited 03-11-2014 05:27 PM
@*lady*godiva* wrote:
@am*3 wrote:Those are the sort of comments that are spread around.. rubbish.
A private business makes it's own commerical decisions (nothing to do with religion). Don't like their decisions (e.g. using palm oil) don't buy their products.. simple.
Halal label has been on Vegemite for nearly 5 years, it is still a very profitable item.
Bega Cheese halal certificaton since 1996 - hasn't gone broke yet!
.......
For people who don't approve of halal certification and wish to boycott the products that have halal labels on them buy not buying them that is fine. Even writing a non-abusive letter to the company saying they don't approve of the halal certification is fine.
Why should they (the halal label objecters) then target the company publicly with their spamming of their business facebook pages (which also involves abusive, bigotted comments).. just because that company has made a commercial decision to have their products (or some of them) halal certified (especially for their export markets)?
If others are happy to continue to buy Vegemite etc, with halal labels on them what right do the halal label objectors have to try and interfere with their choice?
Why doesn't this apply to products such as that singlet with the Australian flag and the slogan "if you don't like it, leave"?
KMart (or whoever) made a commercial decision to stock a particular product. The objectors did target the company publicly, some in the abusive manner that you describe, to such an extent that they withdrew the product from sale.
Some were happy to buy that product. What right did the objectors have to try and interfere with their choice?
Woolworths chose to remove it from sale.
National supermarket chain Woolworths has apologised for "inadvertently" stocking a singlet which says "if you don't love it, leave" alongside a picture of the Australian flag in two of its stores.
A photo of the singlet has gone viral on social media since it was posted on Sunday afternoon on Twitter by Canberra man George Craig.
The 29-year-old was in the Queensland town of Cairnson an end-of-season fishing trip with his football team when he spotted the offending item in the Woolworths store on Spence Street.
"I was with a bunch of blokes on a footy trip, not one thought it was appropriate," Mr Craig told the ABC.
"We were genuinely shocked, not just that the sentiment still exists, but that such a huge company with huge reach across a diversity of communities would stock the product."
Dozens of people took to Woolworths' Facebook account to criticise the supermarket giant over the singlet, with many labelling it racist.
on 03-11-2014 05:54 PM
I doubt it had any effect on the financial viability of Woolies Where as it has now been made very clear that the anti halal campaign could destroy at least some of those Australian businesses that have been halal certified, it also seems to be the aim of some of it's supporters, so no comparison really.
on 03-11-2014 06:02 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@ufo_investigations wrote:Closing down halal exports is the best thing that could happen to this country!
I will celebrate it with a grilled bacon & cheese sandwich. 😉
Whydo you think it would it be "the best thing?"
Is it because you believe everyone in Australia should adhere to your religious objections to halal products?
Is it because you believe halal certification funds terrorism
Is it because you believe Muslims living in this country should not have the right to practice their religious customs even if they do not clash with Australian Law?
Is it because you have an irrational hatred of anyone who is "different"?
Is it all of the above?
Is it some of the above?
I haven't read all of this thread, but, has anyone asked ufo WHY he thinks it is against his religion? or has he stated those reasons somewhere else? ie eating halal certified stuff.
on 03-11-2014 06:03 PM
If no one had have criticised it, would woolworths (thank you both for correcting me) have removed it from sale? Or would they have smiled sweetly every time the cash register clicked over another sale?
Boris, what else could the public relations people in damage control say when the company made a decision that was met with such derrision?
on 03-11-2014 06:07 PM
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@ufo_investigations wrote:Closing down halal exports is the best thing that could happen to this country!
I will celebrate it with a grilled bacon & cheese sandwich. 😉
Whydo you think it would it be "the best thing?"
Is it because you believe everyone in Australia should adhere to your religious objections to halal products?
Is it because you believe halal certification funds terrorism
Is it because you believe Muslims living in this country should not have the right to practice their religious customs even if they do not clash with Australian Law?
Is it because you have an irrational hatred of anyone who is "different"?
Is it all of the above?
Is it some of the above?
I haven't read all of this thread, but, has anyone asked ufo WHY he thinks it is against his religion? or has he stated those reasons somewhere else? ie eating halal certified stuff.
UFO said it's a sin because it's something like praying to a false/alternative god, or something to that effect.