Halal Certification and surprise surprise Pauline Hanson is wrong

[donnashuggy]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-14/fact-check-does-halal-certification-fund-terrorism/6383238

[lionrose.7]

That was an interesting read Donna, finally the facts about Halal

[debra9275]

we watched lateline last night and also thought it was pretty interesting- $650,000 per year is not as much as I  thought it would be after all the stories you hear aboout it

[debra9275]

I came across this the other day and i thought it was kind of controversial

[icyfroth]

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@donnashuggy wrote:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-14/fact-check-does-halal-certification-fund-terrorism/6383238

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Ok I just skim-read the article, but I didn't see where she actually STATED Halal funds terrorism.

She said:

 "It is a profit money-making racket. The money goes into Islamic organisations and has been connected to the Muslim Brotherhood in France and actually also in Canada,"

"It's estimated it's a $3 trillion industry and this money can go to mosques, Islamic schools and it's even estimated that it can go to terrorism," 

She's right.

Muhammad Khan, CEO of Halal Australia, said profits did not go towards supporting any terrorist activities.

"We do not fund anything like that, we do not in any way endorse or support or want to be associated with terrorism," he said.

Dr Kahn said Halal Australia donates some of its profits to Islamic schools and mosques as part of its broader community engagement program, which includes donations to children's hospitals and the Cancer Council Australia.

and:

In late 2014, the Indonesian government introduced new legislation to ensure all products sold in Indonesia are halal certified, with the Government taking responsibility for administering the halal product guarantee via a new agency, which then submits its results to the MUI.

The Jakarta Post reported that United Development Party politician Hasrul Azwar said that once the government controlled the halal certification process it would not only reap more revenue for the state but also could help curb extortionate practices.

So 

"We plan to break down the components of costs involved in the issuance of each certificate to prevent businesses from being charged illegal levies," the paper quoted Hasrul saying.

"we plan"? So businesses are currently being charged illegal levies? subject to extortionate practices? 

How long will such "curbing" be in the planning stages I wonder?

[raptor_rebooted]

thanks for the link donnashuggy

there have been a few posters here recently

arguing about halal certification profits  being

donated to islamic schools or mosques.

[debra9275]

Halal certification and terrorism

Financing terrorism is a criminal offence in Australia, with a penalty of life imprisonment.

Fact Check has also produced a fact file on how authorities monitor the financing of terrorism.

A spokesman for the Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre (AUSTRAC) - the government body that monitors money laundering and terrorism - told Fact Check that it had no information to indicate there are links to terrorism financing from halal certification fees.

The Australian Crime Commission issued a statement in November 2014 saying its taskforce with AUSTRAC and the AFP had identified links between organised crime and terrorism funding.

"However, the Australian Crime Commission is not aware of any direct links between the legitimate halal certification industry and money laundering or the financing of terrorist groups," said the commission's chief executive Chris Dawson.

that part is interesting too, if it were true that Halal certification was funding terrorism then  the certification would be shut down by the govt. not encouraged by them as per Tony abbott's letter of encouragment to the Halal Expo

[cherry*135 · Accepted solution]

"Campaigning in the Queensland election, Ms Hanson said she wanted to ban Australian companies from paying for halal certification."

She's a joke.

She doesn't even know what she is talking about.

"The Federal Government's trade body Austrade cites 2012 Malaysian research that estimated the value of the halal food industry globally at between $US600 billion and $US2.1 trillion.

None of these figures reach $3 trillion.

In any case, all the estimates are for the value of halal food, not the value of certifying that food."

[icyfroth]

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@debra9275 wrote:

Halal certification and terrorism

Financing terrorism is a criminal offence in Australia, with a penalty of life imprisonment.

Except Australian Security wouldn't know if their backsides were on fire. They let Khaleed Sharrrouf slip through their net and let associate Mohamed Elomar's sister funnel millions of $$$ out of the country.

Fact Check has also produced a fact file on how authorities monitor the financing of terrorism.

A spokesman for the Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre (AUSTRAC) - the government body that monitors money laundering and terrorism - told Fact Check that it had no information to indicate there are links to terrorism financing from halal certification fees.

The Australian Crime Commission issued a statement in November 2014 saying its taskforce with AUSTRAC and the AFP had identified links between organised crime and terrorism funding.

"However, the Australian Crime Commission is not aware of any direct links between the legitimate halal certification industry and money laundering or the financing of terrorist groups," said the commission's chief executive Chris Dawson.

that part is interesting too, if it were true that Halal certification was funding terrorism then  the certification would be shut down by the govt. not encouraged by them as per Tony abbott's letter of encouragment to the Halal Expo

I'm pretty sure any such terrorism funding would be cloaked under all sorts of complex business transactions. You think they'd be so transparent?

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[cherry*135]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

thanks for the link donnashuggy

there have been a few posters here recently

arguing about halal certification profits  being

donated to islamic schools or mosques.

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Did they (anti-hala brigade) mention donations to children's hospitals and the Cancer Council Au as well?

Dr Kahn said Halal Australia donates some of its profits to Islamic schools and mosques as part of its broader community engagement program, which includes donations to children's hospitals and the Cancer Council Australia.