09-11-2013 09:36 PM - edited 09-11-2013 09:37 PM
Turn back the boats eh?
Expect another in days and Abbotts promises to be worth nothing.
Hear that silence?....it's the people who made this a hot issue months before the election....and declared a stop to the boats with a new PM......they are silent. as expected.
Tony Abbott's government capitulated to Indonesia on Friday night, ordering a Customs boat with up to 63 refugees on board to go to Christmas Island.
An asylum seeker in Indonesia contacted Fairfax Media early on Saturday to say the boat had reached the Australian territory on Saturday morning after Immigration Minister Scott Morrison failed to convince Indonesia to accept their return.
"I have friends on the boat," the asylum seeker said in a text message, "and yesterday he says, 'My boat [has] reached.'"
The source said the people on board were from Pakistan and Afghanistan, and had been organised by people smugglers called Muzahir and Sher Ali.
The arrival is a loss of face for the Coalition, which vowed before the election that Australian authorities would not act as a taxi service for refugees. It may also encourage other people smuggling syndicates to try their hand.
on 10-11-2013 06:43 PM
on 10-11-2013 07:21 PM
Mr Abbott put it to the test and it didn't pass. More fool him, indeed. Not a reflection of his leadership, though.
More, that alliances based on handouts (from previous govenrments) don't necessarily pass the test of time.
What is it a reflection on then? Whatever he does in his politicial life (even personal life if there are any scandals) now is a reflection on him as Prime Minister & Leader of the LNP. All need is a PM that is no good at internationa relations, in this age of global economies.
The Indonesians said No to Rudd about turning back the boats, so why did Tony Abbott think they would change their mind, just because he wanted them too.
I don't see that this issue has anything to do with handouts... unless people want the Aust Govt to bring blackmail into it... and say to the Indonesians... let us turn back the boats to you or we will cut off your Aid?
Australia isn't the largest Aid provider to Indonesia, they are the 4th largest one from memory. They are not totally dependent on Australia for Aid.
Without Australian Aid there would be less chance of alleviating poverty there, perhaps the Indonesians themselves would start catching boats to Australia if that happened.
on 10-11-2013 07:23 PM
@just_me_karen wrote:
No, they're not laughing behind our backs. They're laughing on their national TV and on the front pages of all their main newspapers....which have a massive readership.
Phoney Fibbott is a farce, he makes me cringe while they laugh 😄
Lets just hope their laughter doesn't turn to anger.
Yes, let's hope.
on 10-11-2013 09:56 PM
handouts?
on 10-11-2013 10:06 PM
on 10-11-2013 10:08 PM
on 10-11-2013 11:40 PM
Oh come on! we all knew he couldn't stop the boats, didn't we? I see nothing to bicker about.......
he said he would
he can't.
on 10-11-2013 11:43 PM
He knew he couldn't so he fibbed to get elected.
on 10-11-2013 11:51 PM
but.... we knew he was fibbing..... didn't we?
11-11-2013 12:27 AM - edited 11-11-2013 12:28 AM
Yes, most of us did.. especially the I will turn the boats back (when it is safe to do so), when Indonesia never said that was acceptable to them, nor any clues from Tony, as to when it would be safe to do so. Also Aust Navy weren't going for that either.
No harm in pointing that out to the avid LNP supporters though. Especially those who try and deflect in this thread, to some historical Labor party occurence (non boat related) instead.