Manus Island: Morrison concedes he was wrong.

[i-need-a-martini]

So it looks like all of the initial reports that Fairfax were printing were correct:

The death and injuries occurred INSIDE the compound by staff using unlawful force.

Unbelievable. Can you imagine the terror those (unarmed) boys and men must have felt?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/scott-morrison-admits--information-he-gave-on-...

[the_great_she_elephant]

Looks like he got some information put it out to the public to inform the public what happened is a mistake.

Looks like the security staff had a riot on their hands that they had to fight to the death to protect themselves, then covered it up.

Loks like, looks like, looks like. Is this what waiting for the result of the inquiry and  not jumping to conclusions looks like?

[lakeland27]

how long have you got

[boris1gary]

Below is a quote from morrison the not a racist, although i suspect the last sentence is an outright lie after reading what the workers from the Salvo's had to say.

abc.

Mr Morrison says he takes responsibility for things that happen on his watch.

"I do take responsibility for things that happen within my portfolio under my management, of course I do," he said.

"Since we came into office, I have been taking steps every day to try and upgrade and get the offshore processing facilities in a far better shape."

[boris1gary]

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@windrake wrote:

I think the attacks on the previous Labor government was well deserved. Six years of mismanagement & incompetence, corruption, lies & back stabbing. Nothing like it has ever been seen in the history of government and Australians will never forget it.

We are now faced with the biggest policy failures perpetrated on Australia by a Labor government in history, the failed border protection policy and the failed pink batts policy.

I hope they do get access to the cabinet papers, I hope they are presented to the RC & I hope the people responsible for killing young Australians on the pink batts Labor policy are brought to brook for their criminal negligence.

It's about time the so called cabinet papers were open to the public if deaths & criminal cover ups were plotted.

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  deaths & criminal cover ups were plotted - next weeks episode of CSI, perhaps?

[boris1gary]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

how long have you got

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how many sleeps to the next election?

[icyfroth]

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@boris1gary wrote:

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@lakeland27 wrote:

how long have you got

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how many sleeps to the next election?

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In the meantime, life will go on and governments will proceed, so live with it.

[bluecat*dancing]

Unless you are on Manus Island....

[colic2bullsgirlore]

People have a very short memory. Remember this?

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says asylum seekers who arrive by boat will have no chance of being settled in Australia as refugees.

Mr Rudd has confirmed a deal that will see asylum seekers sent to Papua New Guinea for assessment, and if they are found to be refugees, they will be resettled there.

PNG's prime minister Peter O'Neill joined Mr Rudd in formally unveiling the plan in Brisbane on Friday.

Mr Rudd says those found not to be refugees will be sent back to their own nations or a third country.

Mr Rudd says the new arrangement delivers a message loud and clear to people smugglers that "their business model is now basically undermined".

The package includes a significant expansion of the Manus Island detention centre to house 3,000 people up from the original capacity of 600.

Mr Rudd has been under growing pressure to deal with the dramatic increase in asylum seekers attempting to enter Australia by boat.

Key points:

• Asylum seekers who arrive by boat will never be settled in Australia
• They will be sent to Manus Island or elsewhere in PNG for assessment
• Genuine refugees will be resettled in PNG
• The agreement will be in place for at least the next 12 months
• There will be no cap on the number of refugees to be settled in PNG

From Here, July 2013

So why the diatribe against Mr Abbott? He's simply continuing on with a program implemented by the previous government. If Labor had've retained power, what would have been different d'you think?

They would have had to deal with the same pressure of Indonesia, and the people smugglers, and the aslylum seekers themselves pulling out all the stops and throwing out all sorts of accusations trying to force the Aus government to back down.

And if the Liberals have to cede government back to Labor in the next election, how will that government then deal with the problem? Because it's very important to the Australian voter that the government take a strong stance on the asylum seeker problem. It was on the strength of his promise to act on this that Mr Abbott was voted in, more that any other policy, after all.

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Glad you asked that Icy

In September 2013 there were around 600 Asylum seekers on Manus Island.

Without expanding the capacity of the camp at all (in fact services were cut back) the coalition continued to send

asylum seekers and just expanded the population of the camp.

  in February 2014 there are 1076 asylum seekers on Manus Island.

The coalition have not used Rudds model at all... just used the venue and chock a blocked it till it was bursting at the

seams.... and it burst.... simple.

The Coalition recipe below

......... fit 1100 people into a place that was designed to cater for 600. Supply not enough water, food nor mental or

medical help. Add near equatorial heat with little shade and wait for the place to explode. Leave the gaurds in place

that were already under investigation for mismanagement (and were told in December that their cintracts would not be

renewed because of the mismanagement)..... and the resultant riot, injury and loss oflife is  now public for all to see

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http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2012-...

As at 27 May 2013, there were 430 asylum seekers on Nauru and 302 on Manus Island.[4]

The combined total capacity of the facilities on Nauru and Manus Island is expected to reach around 2,100 by the end

of 2013 (600 on Manus Island and 1,500 on Nauru).[5] Current capacity is 500 on Manus Island and 528 on Nauru

[colic2bullsgirlore]

Inciteful commentary from the Canberra Times

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/lets-get-heads-out-of-the-manus-island-sand-20140223-33ag7.h...

in part

February 24, 2014

Frank O'Shea

It does not matter whether Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard may be blamed because they set up Manus in the first place. It is of little comfort to those under attack by sticks and stones that the present government can boast to the Australian people that its policy is working because no boats have come in the last two months.

What happened on Manus last week is a stain on Australia.

These innocent people were under our protection when they were attacked. Australia has put them at risk of death and suffering in a desperately poor and struggling country in which, we are told, corruption is rife.

However, unlike Malaysia, it is a signatory to some convention or other that guarantees the rights of refugees.

There is a warning in all this. What is happening on Manus - and Nauru, which does not even have a proper court system - is done in our name, and 20 or 30 years from now, we will look back on these years as a blot on the good name of Australia; there will be apologies and court cases and days of remembrance; it will be in the schoolbooks as a warning to the young.

In America one of the biggest slurs you can utter is to say a person's grandparent was one of those who supported the witch-hunts of the McCarthy era.

In 1954, at the height of that disgrace, less than 30 per cent of Americans were opposed to what was happening. At the same time, citizens of countries in Europe were putting their hands on their hearts and saying they did not know what the governments they had elected with massive majorities had been doing in their name 10 years earlier.

Let us not, then, take comfort in the electoral outcomes of election in September or polls that show 60 per cent of our fellow citizens support what is happening on Manus Island.

Twenty years from now, we won't be able to say that we didn't know; despite the best efforts of the authorities there are enough voices on the ABC and SBS and Fairfax telling us.

And for goodness sake, if you support Scott Morrison and Tony Abbott and what they are doing in our name, keep it to yourself.

Think of your grandchildren.

Think of the shame if in the future there is some evidence that you supported attacks on defenceless people conveniently corralled so that they could not escape their attackers.

Frank O'shea

http://www.independentaustralia.net/profile-on/frank-oshea,42

[spotweldersfriend]

I heard something about those deaths-Labor sponsored chemtrails were responsible,I think.