Please find another time for Protest

[the_bob_delusion]

If you're fighting to protect people's lives, why not start by not risking the innocent lives of everyone elses. Find another time. I will have more respect for you. I was just saying the other day: Thank God that Australians aren't as crazy as Americans and we have at least some common sense not to choose this time to protest. 

[joz*garage]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@domino-710 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@domino-710 wrote:

That is all public knowledge and has been for a week or so now.

It does not excuse an execution style arrest - ending in murder.

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Maybe so. But the office kneeling on Floyd's neck may have been unaware of FLoyd's  medical condition.

It should not have ended in death. I see it as a restrictive measure gone wrong.

So I don't see it as a "execution style" arrest, or "murder". As BLM protesters would have it.

Manslaughter, at best.

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George Floyd's medical condition was irrelevant.

I disagree. If he had not had the underlying issues, he may have survived

An independent autopsy - concluded - asphyxiation.

The man was cuffed - put to the ground - his neck knelt on by an officer with his hands in his pockets - for 8 minutes & 46 seconds.

It was 2nd degree murder - ie - intent.

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I recall a white boy was put in the same postion by police (read it somewhere) as Floyd and died, did he have underlying conditions too??

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Don't know. 

Any details? Link,maybe?

Read it somewhere...sheesh...

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google Tony Timpa, do keep up, perhaps Floyd's killer should have kept up with the times too 😛

[icyfroth]

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@domino-710 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@domino-710 wrote:

That is all public knowledge and has been for a week or so now.

It does not excuse an execution style arrest - ending in murder.

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Maybe so. But the office kneeling on Floyd's neck may have been unaware of FLoyd's  medical condition.

It should not have ended in death. I see it as a restrictive measure gone wrong.

So I don't see it as a "execution style" arrest, or "murder". As BLM protesters would have it.

Manslaughter, at best.

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George Floyd's medical condition was irrelevant.

I disagree. If he had not had the underlying issues, he may have survived

An independent autopsy - concluded - asphyxiation.

The man was cuffed - put to the ground - his neck knelt on by an officer with his hands in his pockets - for 8 minutes & 46 seconds.

It was 2nd degree murder - ie - intent.

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I recall a white boy was put in the same postion by police (read it somewhere) as Floyd and died, did he have underlying conditions too??

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Don't know. 

Any details? Link,maybe?

Read it somewhere...sheesh...

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google Tony Timpa, do keep up, perhaps Floyd's killer should have kept up with the times too 😛

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Yeah I read that on FB as well.

Still no link?

Guess it's up to me,then:

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/tony-timpa/

I'm thinking it's standard police prodecure in restraining suspects. Not all suspects react the same, with all the drugs and whatnot they're taking. Police, in restraining offenders, can't be expected to make a full medical assesment before they act.

[domino-710]

What on earth is it you don't understand.

They have been ' restrained ' - full stop.

LOL - there are 4 of you - 1 of them.

Having been restrained - put them in the car - to the station. 

Then get - a charge - evidence - etc etc etc.

Not ' murder ' on the street.

[joz*garage]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@domino-710 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@domino-710 wrote:

That is all public knowledge and has been for a week or so now.

It does not excuse an execution style arrest - ending in murder.

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Maybe so. But the office kneeling on Floyd's neck may have been unaware of FLoyd's  medical condition.

It should not have ended in death. I see it as a restrictive measure gone wrong.

So I don't see it as a "execution style" arrest, or "murder". As BLM protesters would have it.

Manslaughter, at best.

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George Floyd's medical condition was irrelevant.

I disagree. If he had not had the underlying issues, he may have survived

An independent autopsy - concluded - asphyxiation.

The man was cuffed - put to the ground - his neck knelt on by an officer with his hands in his pockets - for 8 minutes & 46 seconds.

It was 2nd degree murder - ie - intent.

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I recall a white boy was put in the same postion by police (read it somewhere) as Floyd and died, did he have underlying conditions too??

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Don't know. 

Any details? Link,maybe?

Read it somewhere...sheesh...

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google Tony Timpa, do keep up, perhaps Floyd's killer should have kept up with the times too 😛

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Yeah I read that on FB as well.

Still no link?

Guess it's up to me,then:

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/tony-timpa/

I'm thinking it's standard police prodecure in restraining suspects. Not all suspects react the same, with all the drugs and whatnot they're taking. Police, in restraining offenders, can't be expected to make a full medical assesment before they act.

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Lol.. so if you read it somewhere too what do you need a link for?!?!?

Obviously having a suspect pinned to the ground on their stomach with a twist in the neck isn't an ideal method of restraint

If those cops haven't figured that out by now then they shouldn't have a badge

[4channel]

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@domino-710 wrote:

Indeed - I was moore more into content.

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Do you think that Michael Moore lacks credibility?  If so then ..... Yeah, he does on occasion tend to sensationalise a bit, but his documentaries, "Capitalism a Love Story" and "Sicko" are well reviewed and great expose examples of what is blatantly wrong.

FYI, I'm not a fan of "Bowling for Columbine".

* Capitalism: A Love Story

Reviews

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1232207/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

* Sicko

Reviews

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

* Bowling for Columbine

Reviews

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310793/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

So if Caucasian Americans are getting it bad then where do African Americans sit in all of this ?

[myoclon1cjerk]

The list goes on...

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-06-04/police-killings-black-victims

[imastawka]

It's all getting too confused on this thread.

This thread is about the BLM protests in Australia.....or was

All the pertinent info and links are on the Being black in America thread.

https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/being-black-in-america/m-p/2325906#M712101

[joz*garage]

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@imastawka wrote:

It's all getting too confused on this thread.

This thread is about the BLM protests in Australia.....or was

All the pertinent info and links are on the Being black in America thread.

https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/being-black-in-america/m-p/2325906#M712101

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Yeah.. i get it, racism is alive and well, a nobel thing to protest against if it's done in a "safe" manner! but my criticism goes beyond that, seems they'll give anybody a police badge in america, love the place.. but I would hate to live there

[icyfroth]

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@domino-710 wrote:

What on earth is it you don't understand.

They have been ' restrained ' - full stop.

LOL - there are 4 of you - 1 of them.

Having been restrained - put them in the car - to the station. 

Then get - a charge - evidence - etc etc etc.

Not ' murder ' on the street.

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It was one on one.

[icyfroth]

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@domino-710 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@domino-710 wrote:

That is all public knowledge and has been for a week or so now.

It does not excuse an execution style arrest - ending in murder.

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Maybe so. But the office kneeling on Floyd's neck may have been unaware of FLoyd's  medical condition.

It should not have ended in death. I see it as a restrictive measure gone wrong.

So I don't see it as a "execution style" arrest, or "murder". As BLM protesters would have it.

Manslaughter, at best.

---

George Floyd's medical condition was irrelevant.

I disagree. If he had not had the underlying issues, he may have survived

An independent autopsy - concluded - asphyxiation.

The man was cuffed - put to the ground - his neck knelt on by an officer with his hands in his pockets - for 8 minutes & 46 seconds.

It was 2nd degree murder - ie - intent.

---

I recall a white boy was put in the same postion by police (read it somewhere) as Floyd and died, did he have underlying conditions too??

---

Don't know. 

Any details? Link,maybe?

Read it somewhere...sheesh...

---

google Tony Timpa, do keep up, perhaps Floyd's killer should have kept up with the times too 😛

---

Yeah I read that on FB as well.

Still no link?

Guess it's up to me,then:

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/tony-timpa/

I'm thinking it's standard police prodecure in restraining suspects. Not all suspects react the same, with all the drugs and whatnot they're taking. Police, in restraining offenders, can't be expected to make a full medical assesment before they act.

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Lol.. so if you read it somewhere too what do you need a link for?!?!?

Obviously having a suspect pinned to the ground on their stomach with a twist in the neck isn't an ideal method of restraint

If those cops haven't figured that out by now then they shouldn't have a badge

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It's the common requirement, yes. You and I have been around the traps long enough to know that, lol.

Just your word (or mine) is not good enough.