Please find another time for Protest

If you're fighting to protect people's lives, why not start by not risking the innocent lives of everyone elses. Find another time. I will have more respect for you. I was just saying the other day: Thank God that Australians aren't as crazy as Americans and we have at least some common sense not to choose this time to protest. 

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@joz*garage wrote:

Soo, any new positive covid tests come up since these protests?? 


What a small man you turned out to be, Joe.

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@chameleon54 wrote:

Unfortunately there are too many inconsistencies and obvious anomalies in the position of the protesters. They have ruined any credibility they may have had and simply come across as a mob of hypocritical attention seekers....Unfortunately rationality and common sense flies out the window when politicall correctness enters the room..


Sorry but I fail to see where the inconnsistencies and anomalies are. Even if it was a case of right or wrong to protest when the corona virus ius about doesn't make them lack credibility. Their actions were motivated by emotion. The main one that comes to mind is outrage. Care and concern are others.

 

No hyprocracy that I can see.

 


 

There are several glaring anomalies and inconsistencies. You make a number of well thought out and considered points, so I suspect you cant see the anomalies because you don't want to see them.

 

One glaring anomaly is that it is recognised by just about everyone that indigenous Australians have much worse health outcomes than non indigenous Australians.

 

Aboriginal community leaders have rightly been at pains to restrict movement of non community members into Aboriginal settlements due to concerns that if the Corona virus is brought into settlements it will be devastating due to the high incidence of chronic illness, lack of understanding of social distancing and poor access and use of established medical facilities.

 

By encouraging indigenous Australians to head to the state capitals and stand shoulder to shoulder with thousands of other indigenous and non indigenous people during a global pandemic when only ten people have been allowed at funerals is not only stupid in the extreme, but down right dangerous. The chances of a protester picking up the virus and infecting remote communities becomes a highly predictable outcome.

 

The Black Lives Matter rallies are directly endangering " black " communities. 

 

Another anomaly that seems to have slipped your notice is that the slogan " black lives matter " and the rejection of the slogan " all lives matter " is very obviously racist.To suggest that some-ones life only matters if a person has a certain skin colour or racial origin is discriminatory and separatist. The Black lives Matter rallies are fighting racism with racism.True equality can only come when everyone regardless of age, sex, race or skin colour are treated equally. To truly encourage non discrimination, the Black Lives Matter proponents should be espousing the rights of everyone to be treated equally, not pushing seperatism and racial isolation.

 

I understand that " Black " people are currently over-represented in police harassment and deaths in custody, but so are a number of other minority groups such as those with mental illness, the homeless and the poor. Its not just a " black " problem, its a problem of persecution of all minorities by police forces globally. 

 

And for the record, I have been one of the very few contributors to these forums who has been expressing concern about the issue of predudicial and dangerous police procedure consistently for many years. Most here have just jumped onto the bandwagon in the last few weeks since it became the pet project of the PC crowd. No doubt in a month or two you will all move onto the next, latest fashionable thing............. So from one of the old proponents on the subject............ Welcome aboard newbies !

 

 

 


Look. The Black Lives Matter is a real issue. I get that.

 

Thing is, we have an inherited problem here that was introduced by colonisation politics of preivous world powers, back in the day.

 

In todays world we recognise it and are shamed for it

 

Ok, Black/White relations are coming to a head. Why wouldn't they?

 

Still...moving forwad.(and I hate that term)  we need to negotiate a balance between our black and white lives. We need to have respect for our white traditions as well as acknowledgeemnt  for the suffering black ppl had  to go through to uphold it.

 

 

 

 


Does that mean " We're all in this together ".........Sing along now............Man Tongue...........Sorry !

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Why would you say such a thing? i was curious to find out if the virus has actually spread due to the protests


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Sorry i asked LOL


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@icyfroth wrote:

@joz*garage wrote:

Soo, any new positive covid tests come up since these protests?? 


What a small man you turned out to be, Joe.


Why?

 

There is a fear that a second wave or peak could occur because of the protests. That would mean we are back to self-isolation, lockdown etc. And I don't want to get infected and worry about whether I will live or die. I am anxiously waiting to see how many positive cases were caused by the protests. I guess that makes me a small man too, hey?

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

@joz*garage wrote:

Soo, any new positive covid tests come up since these protests?? 


What a small man you turned out to be, Joe.


Why?

 

There is a fear that a second wave or peak could occur because of the protests. That would mean we are back to self-isolation, lockdown etc. And I don't want to get infected and worry about whether I will live or die. I am anxiously waiting to see how many positive cases were caused by the protests. I guess that makes me a small man too, hey?


I also thought the protests would be a good indicator, seems that virus is still lurking


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With what you said above, it's something that can be easily said about any community. It's actually an inapplicable thing to say. Many African Americans hard,  want to do good things in their own community and further afield. Their resources are severely limited and in many cases, non-existent! The system is to blame for this. On an official level, a blind eye has been turned to the narcotics situation in the African American community's and we're talking about on an official level. It's up to you if you want to do the research. The disproportionate incarceration of African American men means many young African American boys grow up without a male role model. When non-African American men are convicted of an offence, the same offence committed by an African American, guess who is more likely to be jailed?

 


Why do we not see enough rich prominent black people condemning action by their own people or providing finances to help propogate their situation. When you say the system is to blame DO you mean the equal system? Funny enough, Blacks and aboriginal are given preferential entry into colleges and universites as well as more oportunity to scholorship. In Australia, who has a harder time getting a job based on their names. The Chinese and muslims fare much worst than the aborigines.
DO you think if we donated more money to the black community in US, it will result in better outcomes. I doubt it. The problem lies in blacks not caring enough about their community to do anything. If they don't, how do they expect other people to.  

I totally disagree with you. The 200 years you mention have been filled with pleas to be given what Johnny Cash referred to as "A fair shake". This hasn't happened. The public throat crushing execution of George Floyd is that straw that's broken the camel's back. Strike while the iron is hot is what's happening. Totally predictable reaction and totally understandable.

 

OK, the_bob_delusion, I apologise if I'm wrong but I think I see within you a failure  to understand and fully grasp what's going on here. While I wouldn't use the term genocide, I would say that what has been taking place in  the last 200 years you mentioned is the deliberate denial of the right for African Americans as a whole to thrive and live as equals.

 

A good book to read even though it's somewhat dated is Black LIke Me by John Howard Griffin . A nice little account of what the book is about is here! 

 

The public hasn't been given enough information or are just jumping on the banwagon. George Floyd is a violent criminal. I have no respect for him. Apparently there're thousands of black victims to choose from, again, why is it so hard to find someone worthy enough to represent. I don't live in America, I don't discriminate again African Americans as I dont' know of any in my life. If anyone happened to point a gun at a pregnant woman with the intention to kill. I'll happily knee them in the neck for as long as necessary regardless if they're black or not.

Yes, precautions must be taken with Corona virus. The statistics go from being not as lethal as the flu to being more lethal.

 



The flu has killed far more people than coronavirus. So why all the frenzy about COVID-19?

 

 

 

Covid is more infectious, cause higher death rate and higher rate of hospitalization. I've deleted your other useless points and links as they're irrelevant and adds nothing.

 

 

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The flu has killed far more people than coronavirus. So why all the frenzy about COVID-19?

 

Because CV-19 is far more contagious and lives on surfaces for longer hence has the potential to devastate far worse than the flu.

If we had considered and reacted to CV-19 as just another flu, we would potentially be looking at another loss of life similar to the plague.

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@icyfroth wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Lythargr wrote: Apparently white lives dont matter as much

 

To whom is it apparent?


Not to you, obviously...


Oh I cound never be as cluey as "the elephant woman"   🙂   ...... nor would I want to be so beige lol

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@chameleon54 wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

@chameleon54 wrote:

@4channel wrote

 

 


@chameleon54 wrote:

Unfortunately there are too many inconsistencies and obvious anomalies in the position of the protesters. They have ruined any credibility they may have had and simply come across as a mob of hypocritical attention seekers....Unfortunately rationality and common sense flies out the window when politicall correctness enters the room..


Sorry but I fail to see where the inconnsistencies and anomalies are. Even if it was a case of right or wrong to protest when the corona virus ius about doesn't make them lack credibility. Their actions were motivated by emotion. The main one that comes to mind is outrage. Care and concern are others.

 

No hyprocracy that I can see.

 


 

There are several glaring anomalies and inconsistencies. You make a number of well thought out and considered points, so I suspect you cant see the anomalies because you don't want to see them.

 

One glaring anomaly is that it is recognised by just about everyone that indigenous Australians have much worse health outcomes than non indigenous Australians.

 

Aboriginal community leaders have rightly been at pains to restrict movement of non community members into Aboriginal settlements due to concerns that if the Corona virus is brought into settlements it will be devastating due to the high incidence of chronic illness, lack of understanding of social distancing and poor access and use of established medical facilities.

 

By encouraging indigenous Australians to head to the state capitals and stand shoulder to shoulder with thousands of other indigenous and non indigenous people during a global pandemic when only ten people have been allowed at funerals is not only stupid in the extreme, but down right dangerous. The chances of a protester picking up the virus and infecting remote communities becomes a highly predictable outcome.

 

The Black Lives Matter rallies are directly endangering " black " communities. 

 

Another anomaly that seems to have slipped your notice is that the slogan " black lives matter " and the rejection of the slogan " all lives matter " is very obviously racist.To suggest that some-ones life only matters if a person has a certain skin colour or racial origin is discriminatory and separatist. The Black lives Matter rallies are fighting racism with racism.True equality can only come when everyone regardless of age, sex, race or skin colour are treated equally. To truly encourage non discrimination, the Black Lives Matter proponents should be espousing the rights of everyone to be treated equally, not pushing seperatism and racial isolation.

 

I understand that " Black " people are currently over-represented in police harassment and deaths in custody, but so are a number of other minority groups such as those with mental illness, the homeless and the poor. Its not just a " black " problem, its a problem of persecution of all minorities by police forces globally. 

 

And for the record, I have been one of the very few contributors to these forums who has been expressing concern about the issue of predudicial and dangerous police procedure consistently for many years. Most here have just jumped onto the bandwagon in the last few weeks since it became the pet project of the PC crowd. No doubt in a month or two you will all move onto the next, latest fashionable thing............. So from one of the old proponents on the subject............ Welcome aboard newbies !

 

 

 


Look. The Black Lives Matter is a real issue. I get that.

 

Thing is, we have an inherited problem here that was introduced by colonisation politics of preivous world powers, back in the day.

 

In todays world we recognise it and are shamed for it

 

Ok, Black/White relations are coming to a head. Why wouldn't they?

 

Still...moving forwad.(and I hate that term)  we need to negotiate a balance between our black and white lives. We need to have respect for our white traditions as well as acknowledgeemnt  for the suffering black ppl had  to go through to uphold it.

 

 

 

 


Does that mean " We're all in this together ".........Sing along now............Man Tongue...........Sorry !


ha haa...you should be sorry ya sad so and so...

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