on โ06-06-2020 08:50 AM
If you're fighting to protect people's lives, why not start by not risking the innocent lives of everyone elses. Find another time. I will have more respect for you. I was just saying the other day: Thank God that Australians aren't as crazy as Americans and we have at least some common sense not to choose this time to protest.
โ26-07-2020 08:59 AM - edited โ26-07-2020 09:04 AM
@cezm wrote:
The very important point the ABC fact check article conveniently ignores is what message did staging a mass protest with thousands of people standing shoulder to shoulder in the middle of a pandemic when everyone else was in lock down send to the minority communities ?
The message that many minorities would have taken away is that the virus wasn't really a drama because the protesters where allowed to gather en masse without appropriate social distancing. We will never be able to reliably measure the effect this had on community perception, but what is undeniable is that it is similar minorities who have been disproportionately represented in more recent COVID statistics. ie They are either just not getting the message or they are ignoring the health messages and not taking them seriously.
That is largely the reason widely credited for this virus taking off again in Victoria.
What part did the BLM rallies have in social minorities ignoring the important health messages ?
on โ26-07-2020 10:55 AM
Chameleon wrote: What part did the BLM rallies have in social minorities ignoring the important health messages ?
Who exactly are these 'social minorities' to whom you keep referring? Do you mean ethnic minorities, religious minorities, generational minorities, political minorities - or any demographic whose lifestyle or philosophy differs from what you consider should be the Australian norm.
on โ26-07-2020 11:23 AM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:Chameleon wrote: What part did the BLM rallies have in social minorities ignoring the important health messages ?
Who exactly are these 'social minorities' to whom you keep referring? Do you mean ethnic minorities, religious minorities, generational minorities, political minorities - or any demographic whose lifestyle or philosophy differs from what you consider should be the Australian norm.
Take ya pick, if they proceed with holding these protest marches during a PANDEMIC, they are all as dumb as each other.
โ26-07-2020 05:43 PM - edited โ26-07-2020 05:46 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:Chameleon wrote: What part did the BLM rallies have in social minorities ignoring the important health messages ?
Who exactly are these 'social minorities' to whom you keep referring? Do you mean ethnic minorities, religious minorities, generational minorities, political minorities - or any demographic whose lifestyle or philosophy differs from what you consider should be the Australian norm.
The same " social minorities " the Victorian Government has identified. These being the 35% of Melbourne residents who do not speak English as a first language in their own homes and for whom the Victorian Government ran a special door knocking campaign around 8 weeks ago to educate them about the virus using languages other than English.
It was the Victorian Government that identified that for what ever reason these minority groups where not responding to health warnings with the same urgency as other groups and where over - represented in new case statistics.
Don't get offended or argue with me over it, just because its not P.C. . It is just stating a major health problem identified, publicised and actioned by Victorian Premier Andrews and co..
on โ29-08-2020 11:38 PM
So Another BLM protest to defend another career criminal. Seriously. Find someone worth protesting for.
on โ30-08-2020 11:18 AM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:So Another BLM protest to defend another career criminal. Seriously. Find someone worth protesting for.
Does Wisconsin have the death penalty on its statutes?
Did Jacob Blake commit a capital offence?
Ditto Minnisota and George Floyd?
on โ30-08-2020 03:59 PM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:
If you're fighting to protect people's lives, why not start by not risking the innocent lives of everyone elses. Find another time. I will have more respect for you. I was just saying the other day: Thank God that Australians aren't as crazy as Americans and we have at least some common sense not to choose this time to protest.
Thinking more about things, I'm now more understanding to the plight of the protester. If I were to put myself in the shoes of say an African American and with emotions running as high as they are now, the fear of going out and being accosted, assaulted, maimed or possibly killed by a policeman could be akin to Russian Roulette. In the minds of some people it definitely is. Closer to home, here in Australia with its appalling record of treatment of Indigenous Australians, deaths in custody etc., we have to take into account the mental anguish people are feeling. There is no alternative inn the minds of these people and people are suffering from stress that is akin to PTSD.
With protesters concerned with their health freedom the stress could be the same. The knowledge that 5G can do harm to our cells can send some folks into a stress unfathomable. Me, I like to be hopeful that some politicians will listen to reason, man up / woman up and be real!
Then there are those who are terrified of being forcibly vaccinated. Many of these people are not anti vaxxers. Huge mistakes have been made in the past.
What the Tamiflu saga tells us about drug trials and big pharma
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/apr/10/tamiflu-saga-drug-trials-big-pharma
I can't condemn these protesters and I understand more now where they're coming from. I personally wish that there could be another time to do it but I do understand them.
on โ05-09-2020 03:50 PM