Satanic Pianos

[icyfroth]

Satanic pianos and anthem a disgrace?

BACK in 2012 the Islamic College of South Australia made headlines when it sacked a female staff member for failing to wear a headscarf.

In hindsight it looks like these developments were a sign that some people at the college, which was once hailed as a multicultural success story with a commitment to assimilation, were determined to ensure that it maintained a separate identity from the Australian mainstream. Needless to say, in the current climate such an approach is unwelcome.

The singing of the anthem is something that happens in every Australian school and is an important symbolic gesture of our togetherness as Australians. If the school has banned the anthem it suggests a hostility to that concept.

More disturbing is the report that the school has also banned the playing of the piano from its music program on the grounds that the piano is evil. If this is the case, such medieval nonsense is straight out of the joyless playbook of the Taliban, which regards television, cinema, and almost every form of art as the work of the devil.

People are punished for watching TV and listening to music in Afghanistan. If we have a situation here in the suburbs of Adelaide where children are being chastised for wanting to play and enjoy music, we have a very serious problem on our hands.

Private religious schools receive public money in Australia. The argument about whether they should was settled in the 1960s. If these schools teach the curriculum and adhere to community values, fair enough.

You would doubt that too many taxpayers would want to underwrite a curriculum which regards pianos as satanic and the anthem as a disgrace.

The Federal Government should seek answers from this college on our behalf. If these practices are confirmed, the school should not get a cent.

More importantly, its teaching practices should be monitored and if necessary stamped out, as this kind of teaching has no place in an enlightened democracy.

Entire Article Here

I wonder how they feel about abstract art?

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

The nuns at my school were convinced that rock and roll was the devil's music - and I'm pretty sure they felt much the same way about abstract art. Going into the chapel without a head covering was practically a mortal sin.:smileylol

thank god they wouldn't be able to get away with

banning music at our schools today - it is what

we are discussing - our schools - present day.

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And after reading the article in your OP I'd say it looks like they are not going to get away with it at this school, either.. 

[Anonymous]

hopefully!  thanks to the publicity.

discussing it in the context of what was 

acceptable during the dark ages is not 

really serving any purpose - is it

[lloydslights]

Unfortunately, there are a few problems within Schools under control of the Australian Federation islamic Council, cutting costs/wages;  financial recording,  etc.  Not forgetting of course, teachers/staff are usually employed on Contract for a set period.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-31/australias-largest-muslim-school-facing-closure/5062118

There are Dress Codes  for all personnel on school property and when representing the Schools.  

Requirements for Dress Code

(I have deleted some sections here, go to full site for further info)

Male Staff

• The minimum standard is business shirt, tailored pants and business shoes. A suit or similar style jacket and tie are encouraged during the winter months and to formal school events
• The following are not permitted:
• Jeans and jean style trousers
• Cargo pants
• Shorts
• Tee-shirts
• Hair should be clean, and the colour and style expectations placed on students must not be exceeded by staff

Female Staff

Females are required to

• Wear a head scarf
• Clothing should be loose fitting, non-transparent and modest.
• Sleeves should be full or three quarter length.
• Skirts and dresses should be lower shin or ankle length.
• Necklines must be modest and cover the chest area.
• Pants/trousers must be loose fitting and ankle length.
• Shirts, blouses or tops, cardigans or jackets should be loose and fall below the hips.

Yes, it will be interesting to hear a response from the (Board/Principal?) when the Chairman returns to duty.  And whether the little protest group is allowed to legally continue outside the school.

DEB

[cherry*135]

Yawnies.

[cherry*135]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

I wonder how they feel about abstract art?

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Sad little comment.

My Grandma thought playing cards and dancing was 'evil'.

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The nuns at my school were convinced that rock and roll was the devil's music - and I'm pretty sure they felt much the same way about abstract art. Going into the chapel without a head covering was practically a mortal sin.:smileylol

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I reckon that would've been a long time ago, She-el. Probably about the same time as Am's Grandma.

Australian society has progressed in leaps and bounds since then. Unlike certain religious groups in Australia that want to continue their in archaic practices.

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My Grandma was born in 1883. My mother (and her 9 siblings) were brought up with the strict no dancing/no playing cards ideals.

My Mum would have been born about 30 years before she-ele. 

When I started high school (70's), there was a girls side and boys side of the school.. only mixed in classes. The old fashioned Headmaster retired after my first year, so that all changed.

Why aren't the exclusive Brethern targeted in the news, like the Muslims are?. They don't believe in having any 'outside' influences in the home (or businesses they own), radio, TV, internet all banned. Children go home at lunchtime from school if possible, as they aren't allowed to eat in front of non-Bretherns.

They build their own schools in communities as well.

[debra9275]

I remember when our daughter was at a private girls school here in Melb.they also had a very strict dress code (though they wore uniforms) . So I don't find a strict dress code to be all that unusual to be honest. They never banned pianos though

[Anonymous]

So I don't find a strict dress code to be all that unusual to be honest.

its not.  its the discrimination most ppl would 

object to.

during summer male teachers can wear

tshirts and shorts but female teachers have 

to be covered up.

[lloydslights]

It's the Dress Code of the Female Staff, that I believe a disgruntled teacher was complaining about in the OP.  Yet it appears she signed a Contract knowing the Staff  Dress Code?

We are not getting the whole story of course, due to filters in place by the various parties of the "events"  No doubt the services of the  Independent Education Union will be sought by the teacher. 

DEB

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

hopefully!  thanks to the publicity.

From the article, I'd say it was more thanks to the concerned parents and the support they recieved from the Immams.

discussing it in the context of what was 

acceptable during the dark ages is not 

really serving any purpose - is it

You're not suggesting I went to school in the Dark Ages are you?

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[debra9275]

I read what was posted and I read the link. where does it say male teachers can wear shorts and t- shirts?