Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[village_person]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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Invitation to such events clearly state that there is a dress code.  It is very rude to disregard it.  And just as some restaurants will not let in people in thongs, without tops or in swimsuits, the people in the mosque have a right not to let people who do not comply with their request to dress modestly.  People are invited to the mosque open day to learn more about Muslims, not to push their values on the Muslim community.

Dressing appropriately shows respect, arriving at any place of worship in bikini, is rude.  And knowing that Muslims believe that women should not be showing bare skin on the street, trying to enter Mosque in bikini top is showing that they went there to insult , not to try understand the community.

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Auburn Gallipoli Mosque takes great pleasure in inviting you, your family and friends on Sunday 8th September 2013

Take this opportunity to experience the serenity of being surrounded by traditional Ottoman artwork.

- Tour the Mosque

- Information seminars

- Meeting members of the Muslim community

- Refreshments and light lunch

Please forward this invite to any of your friends or family members that might be interested in attending.

Events Details

Address: North Parade (Gelibolu Pde) Auburn NSW 2144

Date:       Sunday 8th September 2013

Time:       10am – 4pm

And the dress code is? Over to you S_N.

[id-to-post-anything]

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@karliandjacko wrote:

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@id-to-post-anything wrote:

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@debra9275 wrote:

what happens in synagogues is everyone welcome there?

Or do you have to be Jewish to go inside one?

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anyone is welome inside

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Considering the story about the Jewish men who refused to sit next to women on the plane I can't see them welcoming any scantily dressed women into their particular meeting place.

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depends on the synagogue. Most would. Those guys in the story are extremists, even by relgious Jewish standards and they probably wouldnt. But they are  very much the minority

[debra9275]

even wearing a bikini top and shorts??

[village_person]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Myself and the g/f attended one of those mosque open days and I must say the hosts were most unfriendly. It was a most propitious event or so I thought. My g/f was wearing a pair of shorts and a bikini top. We were met at the entry by an ‘official’ who refused us entry until my g/f ‘covered up’. I told him that if we were in the M/E we would have to respect their way of dress but as the mosque was in Australia they should respect our customs and the way we dressed (on a hot day). We were quickly at an impasse; entry was ‘kindly’ refused and we insisted on observing our customs.

Which suggests to me that either:

a) Your  and your gf are both as thick as two short planks and totally lacking in social graces.

b) The clothing was worn as a calculated insult to Muslim sensibilities..

c) She chose - or you encouraged her - to wear that clothing in the full knowledge that she would be refused admission and you would then have an excuse to come onto this forum and whinge about Muslims.

d) It never really happened and you are just making it up to justify your bigotry.

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a) proof please

b) what happened to my rights?

c) proof please

d) proof please

noun, plural bigotries.

1.

stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion thatdiffers from one's own.

2.

the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

According to the definition of bigot and bigotry wouldn't the muslims be just as guilty as I? Did they not show intolerance toward the G/F and me? Did they exhibit a prejucice in terms of what my G/F and  me should wear?

[id-to-post-anything]

as village-person said above -- "Dressing appropriately shows respect, arriving at any place of worship in bikini, is rude."

I guess the definition of appropriately varies, but even by the tone of your question, you are fully aware that that would be inappropriate almost anywhere ---unless you were right on the beach, you wouldnt turn up to restuarant like that.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@nero_wulf wrote:

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You are assuming that Muslim women are being forced against their will to wear this garment and that given the chance they would all abandon it. I suspect if you actually asked Muslim women why they wear the burqa you'd  find the reality is quite different.

We have a community of Carmelite nuns here in Bunbury. They are an enclosed order; that is to say they never venture outside their convent, visitors can only speak to them through a grille and they wear the same long habits and restrictive wimples that nuns used to wear when I was a child.  Nobody forces them to do this, they choose to follow that lifestyle as an act of devotion to God and you would probably find if you asked them many, if not most Muslims who wear the burqa, niqab or hijab do it for exactly the same reason. Bear in mind also that Muslims only wear these restrictive garments when they are out in public - the nuns wear their habits all the time.

[azureline**]

I am a Catholic......................... I do not follow everything in the Bible.................. not a matter of choosing the bits I don't want to follow but choosing what is important to me.

[Anonymous]

Bear in mind also that Muslims only wear these restrictive garments when they are out in public - the nuns wear their habits all the time.

yes that would be the main difference.

nuns wear it all the time - muslim  women

only in the presence of men even when not

in public if the men are not close relatives.

[debra9275]

I think that was actually Nova's post requoted by village person, & I tend to agree with it. I think it's inappropriate to enter anyone's place of worship dressed in shorts & a bikini top

[***super_nova***]

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@village_person wrote:

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Auburn Gallipoli Mosque takes great pleasure in inviting you, your family and friends on Sunday 8th September 2013

Take this opportunity to experience the serenity of being surrounded by traditional Ottoman artwork.

- Tour the Mosque

- Information seminars

- Meeting members of the Muslim community

- Refreshments and light lunch

Please forward this invite to any of your friends or family members that might be interested in attending.

Events Details

Address: North Parade (Gelibolu Pde) Auburn NSW 2144

Date:       Sunday 8th September 2013

Time:       10am – 4pm

And the dress code is? Over to you S_N.

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As I said that was some 10 years ago, in Melbourne..  Obviously I was not talking about the event in your area.  But just because the people organising the event over your way  did not point out in their invitation that coming in bikinis is not acceptable, that does not mean it is not disrespectful do so.