Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

nero_bolt
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Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

 

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I think it was I that bought "baddies" into this.

 

In my mind, I was picturing the burqa as the entire outfit. So the flowing "robes"? that conceal the body fairly extensively, and the head covering and the face covering. The entire sillouette. The whole package. I didn't realize the burqa was just the head covering and the rest of the outfit was called something else.

 

 

Thus I apologise, as it appears I was thinking about the wrong item of clothing when posting. Sorry to all for the interruption.

 

 

But can they wear the dress without the burqa or the burqa without the dress?

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I suppose "you "can if ypu want to.
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@muppet_detector wrote:

I think it was I that bought "baddies" into this.

 

In my mind, I was picturing the burqa as the entire outfit. So the flowing "robes"? that conceal the body fairly extensively, and the head covering and the face covering. The entire sillouette. The whole package. I didn't realize the burqa was just the head covering and the rest of the outfit was called something else.

 

 

Thus I apologise, as it appears I was thinking about the wrong item of clothing when posting. Sorry to all for the interruption.

 

 

But can they wear the dress without the burqa or the burqa without the dress?


Muppet - you don't have to apologise. Most people haven't the foggiest what any of it means.

 

A burka is a veil worn to cover the head only. It is usually silk with intricately embroidered front panel across the face, nose and mouth. It is always worn over an abaya/chador which is a long loose dress or cloak. Some do have hoods but the veil is still worn over the top. The burka is very specific to regions in Afghanistan and India. It is not a middle eastern dress.

 

The niqab is a head piece with a piece of fabric clipped to it to cover the face. Usually the eyes are exposed. It is worn over an abaya or a chador. This is only worn by middle eastern specific to regions in a handful of middle eastern countries.

 

Most womens who choose to cover up, wear the hijab only (scarf around the neck). But older women and those more devout might wear the abaya with a hijab scarf. This is what my neighbours (who are Middle Eastern and very religious) wear -  a silk or cotton coat that they put over their day clothes when they are in public with a hijab over the top. 

 

The hijab is usually worn for religious reasons. The burka/niqab worn for cultural reasons.

 

 

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Obviously  "someone" couldn't handle the Truth  ....   lol


Looks to me like the mods were cleaning........................... the case of the shrinking thread.

 

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I'll go with the button pushing theory
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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

@muppet_detector wrote:

I think it was I that bought "baddies" into this.

 

In my mind, I was picturing the burqa as the entire outfit. So the flowing "robes"? that conceal the body fairly extensively, and the head covering and the face covering. The entire sillouette. The whole package. I didn't realize the burqa was just the head covering and the rest of the outfit was called something else.

 

 

Thus I apologise, as it appears I was thinking about the wrong item of clothing when posting. Sorry to all for the interruption.

 

 

But can they wear the dress without the burqa or the burqa without the dress?


Muppet - you don't have to apologise. Most people haven't the foggiest what any of it means.

 

A burka is a veil worn to cover the head only. It is usually silk with intricately embroidered front panel across the face, nose and mouth. It is always worn over an abaya/chador which is a long loose dress or cloak. Some do have hoods but the veil is still worn over the top. The burka is very specific to regions in Afghanistan and India. It is not a middle eastern dress.

 

The niqab is a head piece with a piece of fabric clipped to it to cover the face. Usually the eyes are exposed. It is worn over an abaya or a chador. This is only worn by middle eastern specific to regions in a handful of middle eastern countries.

 

Most womens who choose to cover up, wear the hijab only (scarf around the neck). But older women and those more devout might wear the abaya with a hijab scarf. This is what my neighbours (who are Middle Eastern and very religious) wear -  a silk or cotton coat that they put over their day clothes when they are in public with a hijab over the top. 

 

The hijab is usually worn for religious reasons. The burka/niqab worn for cultural reasons.

 

 


Thank you so much for posting this Martini.

 

I learnt more from that one post than I have reading this whole thread lol, not to say this thread hasn't been an excellent discussion but thats just so informative 🙂

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 Laleh Bakhtiar is the first American woman to translate the Quran into English and the first woman to present a critical translation of the Quran in any language. She says, "The veil is the wrong thing to be stuck on when discussing Muslim women's rights in Islam. In fact, in many cases, the Quran reinforces a Muslim woman's self-esteem. And Muslim women worldwide are using the Quran to reassert their rights -- rights that have been taken away from them through patriarchal interpretations and laws."

 

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/samina-ali/10-american-muslim-women-you-should-know_b_4413809.html

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'Tony Abbott's budgie smugglers are confronting but we're not calling for THEM to be banned': Muslim women respond to calls to ban burqas... and say face-covering can be 'liberating'

 

 

Tony Abbott's budgie smugglers are 'confronting' - but we're not calling for them to be banned.


That is the common refrain of the Islamic community to fierce calls for the burqa to be outlawed.


The joke is told by community leaders such as Mariam Veiszadeh, by Muslims on the streets of south-west Sydney and is the subject of a meme widely shared by the Islamic community on Facebook.


'It's a light hearted way of making the point.... if you want to dress down or dress up we should all be able to do it,' Ms Veiszadeh told Daily Mail Australia on Friday.

 

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Islamic community leaders told Daily Mail Australia they are sick of the burqa (a form of dress where the face is covered by a mesh grill) being confused with the niqab, a more popular dress where the face is covered but the eyes are not.
'It (the burqa) is not common,' Ms Veiszadeh said. And while there are no reliable statistics, 'only a tiny minority' of Australian Muslim women wear the niqab, she said.


A number of Muslim women told Daily Mail Australia that Australians who wear the niqab find it liberating, rather than oppressive, as critics have said.


'It's an amazing feeling of freedom,' said Maha Abdo, the executive officer of the Muslim Women's Association.
'You can see clearly, but no one can see you.'


Ms Abdo chose to start wearing a hijab 30 years ago, but she has worn a niqab while spending time overseas.
She said her headscarf reminds her of her spirituality.


Read more:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779101/Tony-Abbott-s-budgie-smugglers-confronting-not-calli...

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@daydream**believer wrote:

Hmmmm

 

 

Hunt for the 'Burka Bandit': Man armed with knife and umbrella dressed as Muslim woman to rob travel agents


Hooley dooley, who knew Bedfordshire had moved to Australia?

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