Suicide

martinw-48
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Why is it so bad?
Is it just that misery loves company.
That no one should have an easy out.
That you must suffer with the rest of us.
I actually benifited from suicide.
If my father hadn't killed himself I'd have had to kill him.
I couldn't live any longer under his control.
What is it with people that you must suffer from the same things that they hate.
I have been whinged at for years for not having gotten married and having children.
Even by total strangers.
The exception is that some men tell me that I'm extremely smart.
That they wished that they'd never married and they can be either still married or divorced.
I actually understand why people kill themselves.
Why constantly suffer just because someone else who hasn't ever been able to make your life better get to keep you suffering.
They always claim that they could of helped but how do they really know.
It could be that those who claim that they could have helped make the departed life better were the very one's that the departed wanted to get away from.
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Martin, 

I also have a frozen shoulder in my dominant arm. Since May this year.

I am on a wonderful Facebook support group page. There are plenty around. YouTube has some great videos on physio exercises you can do at home..... best to wait until you move into the thawing stage though. I KNOW you have YouTube, so thereโ€™s no excuses there! ๐Ÿ˜‰

It seems you are still in the โ€˜very painfulโ€™ stage..... freezing. Iโ€™ve just moved into thawing, almost no pain, or at least, the pain is manageable.... but there are days I cry from the pain, so I know it all too well. Also known as 50yr shoulder! ๐Ÿ˜”

 

I have found that a TENS machine has worked absolute wonders for me. There are many different types. Physio did absolutely nothing, except cause more pain. Cortisone injections x 3 did absolutely nothing. Chiropractor was expensive and did absolutely nothing....but what is factual, is that this condition resolves itself even if you do absolutely nothing! Anywhere from 6mths, to 3 yrs. (guidelines only)

 

Re: diabetes..... start researching the sugar carb values of each food item you eat! Porridge is actually quite high in sugar! Oats is also a natural inflamitory food.....so itโ€™s just not beneficial for you, in your current health condition. 

Replace all your sugar (white, brown, caster, sweetener, maple syrup, etc) with natvia,(Stevie) or monk fruit blend. Itโ€™s a tad dearer, yes, but it has a GI of 0! Will not spike your insulin whatsoever. 

I actually know quite a bit about GI if you are at all interested in finding a better food pyramid to eat from, that will help with diabetes and arthritis pain, inflammation etc.  The current food pyramid is rubbish! No one should be following the current food pyramid! 

Dare I say it,  it become a label and ingredient stalker when shopping. I rarely buy packaged food anymore. Itโ€™s all fresh foods mostly. 

 

But you could also research this all yourself, as I did. I actually research and read online, a lot! 

 

Re rego: 

I donโ€™t know about Vic, but NSW job centres will pay car rego to those who have to meet there job search commitments, to get to interviews, training, job interviews etc. They will also give out petrol vouchers to those who require travel for job interviews, etc. worth just asking because itโ€™s not advertised. They will even pay for phone credit, buy you a new phone etc.....

 

As for growing your own garden as Lyndal suggested, itโ€™s a wonderful idea, and you obviously have the space and the great thing is, that veggie plants will grow just as well in pots, as in the ground. Winner winner. 

Youtube has great self watering ideas made from large soft drink bottles, that you can install for the times you are away from home.

 

One last thing, and this comes from personal experience and you WONT LIKE IT (also from personal experience) .... for goodness sake STOP living in the past!!  It has passed, thatโ€™s why itโ€™s called past! Yes, itโ€™s put you where you are now, but you are not a bloody tree! If you donโ€™t like it, then move! Do something PRO-Active to better your life and stop living in a bucket of self pity and misery. We all have a back story, a life that we hate, loathe, cringe about. We all have our miseries, our trials and tribulations to cope with. You are 52.... be 52! Look forward and move forward. Stop letting your past, steal your future! Give yourself a good boot up the backside and get on with life! I KNOW ITS HARD! I bloody know this better than I want to, trust me, but you said yourself, misery loves company ..... but if you keep feeding the crowd, it wonโ€™t leave! 

 

Sometimes we need a good slap up the side of the face to see just how self destructive we actually are to our own lives. Our emotions can be our worst enemy, or our saviour..... the choice IS YOURS! 

 

You have two choices. A solution or an excuse. All Iโ€™ve seen from you here, are your excuses! Get in the drivers seat and move into the next gear and for your sake, change the damn station. 

I make no apologies for being blunt..... I understand misery, pain, loss, hate, self loathing, depression, anger, denial, spite, jealousy....... Iโ€™ve been in some very very dark places and Iโ€™ve been on the very  edge of self destruction, but I got to those places because of my inability to see that I was my own worst enemy. So nope! I make no apologies for being upfront, blunt, in your face with a shovel. 

 

The choice is, and always will be..........yours! 

 

Im here if you need someone to vent to, or to confide in, or to yell at! 

 

xxj 

 

 

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I agree re growing veggies IF you have good soil, if you dont, it can cost a small fortune to get started, money I assume Martin prob does not have atm.  it's not as simple as putting them in the ground and watching them grow 

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Car registration can be paid every three months, making the bill easier to manage.

 

Especially if you're on a HCC

 

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/short-term-payments-to-ease-rego-stress/

 

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/registration/registration-fees/concessions-and-discounts/registratio...

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Always loves me some Janeababe Smiley Wink

 

I sometimes think it's that time of year, some really turn it on

 

 

To me xmas is just another day 


Signatures suck.
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Martin, perhaps you could consider what Jane has written in the vein of Tasfleurโ€™s quote at the top of page 2. I too know what it is like to live in the present with unwanted people and events from the past locked in your head. They can drag you into the pits, harbour hate and anger and even cause thoughts of suicide. Instead, if you have the strength, you can choose to not allow them to affect you and discard them into oblivion. If you remove them from your world then you are left with you. From personal experience, that can be an enlightening experience. So I guess what it narrows down to is whether you are strong enough? My gut feeling is you are.

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martinw-48
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Coleraine soil needs lots of conditioning.
Very heavy clay and I don't have the water.
Also having seen my ex girlfriend spend months growing stuff just to have insects, animals and birds eat it all.
I'm not on mains water and in twenty one years haven't had the money to buy another tank.
Job Network Member here won't pay rego and because I don't have any mutual obligation requirements I'm currently unregistered as they don't get any money.
Okay, I'll forget about the past. I think I'm not really living in the past ATM because it's the future that's causing me to worry ATM with how do I get access to my superannuation fund to fix my Ute.
How do I pay for grass cutting for the next two years
Future is absolutely **bleep** for next two years.
Present is **bleep** ATM too.
I have other worries that are my personal business and I haven't spoken of here because I do have the right to some privacy.
Look I appreciate the advice but advice isn't always able to be actioned.
I've sold my firearms and old cars, that's how I paid my mortgage out early and I'm not selling my slot cars or I have no hobbies left.

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What keeps being forgotten here is that I'm not going to kill myself at any time in the foreseeable future because of my sister.
My question was a general one.
I appreciate the well wishes and positive comments but at the same time it is becoming a little overbearing with all the good intentioned advice and me having to explain everything.
I'm feeling like a need a break.
I know that I started this conversation but it wasn't specifically about me.
It was a general question
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I eat very low GI.
I eat steel cut oats and have to because I can't control my cholesterol with medications, I'm allergic to them.
I have heart disease.
I know about the GI and Don't eat sugar.
I have done extensive testing when first diagnosed and ten years later I'm still a diet controlled diabetic.
The oats probably aren't the best to eat with my current conditions but I have to because of the heart disease.
I can't touch Stevia it gives me diarrhoea.
I can't touch any artificial sweeteners because I get stomach aches.
I don't eat any potatoes or high carb foods.
I eat meat and vegetables and nuts as a rule
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Martin  Why wont they put you on a disabilty pension?  Is it worth trying again?  

 

 

Bumma I have a sh...t load of home grown spuds here, was going to offer you some but I see you dont eat them

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