Take it off her

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@hannahmallory wrote:

Let me tell you this chameleon. 

 

In your post 108, I found your spoiler both intimidating and aggressive.  Can you understand that? 

 

I was a little surprised that you would write my name on a piece of paper and take a photo and put it online.  This is the kind of intimidation that domestic violence victims have to put up with.  Think about that.


 

just an observer here, not expressing an opinion on this thread regarding the intricacies surrounding DV.

 

hannah, I think you will find that the intent of putting your name on a piece of paper before taking the pic is to show that the document is in his possession and not a pic sourced from the internet. There is no intention to intimidate.  

 

If he had included your full eBay ID it might be a different story, but he didn't.

 

Now, if he had found your Facebook page and printed off a pic from your photos it would be a different story.  BUT, the name Hannah is part of your eBay ID . . . it is already on this thread just for being part of your ID.

 

Also, the use of the word "Hi" before your name indicates to me that it is not an act of intimidation. If the note said "here tis hannahmallory" it might be different, but it didn't.

 

If you are concerned about the name "Hannah" appearing on a thread you post on then maybe you need to consider changing your ID to one that makes you an anonymous being on here.

 

DV stirs up all sorts of emotions in people. They see what they want to see and read what they want to read. You saw intimidation, I didn't.

 

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'You saw intimidation, I didn't.'

 

isnt that the whole point of intimidation

it doesnt matter what i think

it matters what the target thinks

 

perhaps in a thread like this one a private message first

'hi, can i post a comment with a picture with your name in it?'

include the picture

 

hindsight is a wonderful gift

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@hannahmallory wrote:

Let me tell you this chameleon. 

 

In your post 108, I found your spoiler both intimidating and aggressive.  Can you understand that? 

 

I was a little surprised that you would write my name on a piece of paper and take a photo and put it online.  This is the kind of intimidation that domestic violence victims have to put up with.  Think about that.



 

 

OK A FULL AND COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE TO YOUR POST

 

Hannah, the post with a picture of the Book on intervention orders, issued by the SA police was in response to your derogatory post kudod by a number of people which stated quite clearly that I was " just making it all up " . As another poster has already indicated the piece of paper was to show I had the information in my possession and it was not simply a photo I had taken from the internet.

 

This was in reference to a number of my previous posts stating a few weeks ago I had to disarm a knife from a young woman who was attempting to stab her male partner after I was called to mediate during a domestic dispute. 

 

I have stated that the Ambulance officers who where present due to previous issues that day, ( mental health problems the woman was experiencing ) evacuated the premises and locked themselves in their ambulance. They did not return until specialist police arrived from Adelaide and contained the incident. During this extended period of waiting I had to physically restrain the young woman. 

 

Following the traumatic incident I assisted the male victim of the DV by attending an interview with police and phoning a magistrates court to gain information on applying for an interim restraining order against the young woman. The information was posted to this thread as advice on how these orders operate and was the specific post you claimed " I was just making it all up ".

 

Further to this, after a period of a week of separation which included proffesional services intervention the young couple decided to continue their relationship. I allowed the young woman to return to the house I have purchased specifically to rent to her and her partner on the condition she attend highly specialised counselling which I would pay for ( at $180 per visit )

 

I have also stated on this forum that my connection with this woman was that a family member alerted me to her circumstances and asked us to assist. She was homeless, ( following a domestic violence incident if you must know ) living on the streets of Melbourne and was frightened and vulnerable. She also desperately wanted to change her circumstances.

 

The reason they asked us to intervene is that in the past my wife and myself  have assisted a small handful of people in similar circumstances, providing them with housing, counselling, access to professional services and advocacy with government organisations. Following our assistance a couple of these people have overcome their circumstances and gone on to live fulfilling lives, a couple of others have relapsed into past habits and addictions. One these relapses is now dead, the other not very well.

 

I also have some minor, past professional experience in this area, having been employed as a supervisor and councillor for young men undertaking court issued community service orders for a period.

 

My wife and myself have in the past had some minor success in business building a couple of B & M  businesses from scratch and owning a number of rental properties. Our philosophy is that commerce and social responsibility do not need to be mutually exclusive and we have made a point of renting our houses often without a bond to vulnerable people who are struggling in the housing market ( including victims of DV )  and offering employment to people who for social justice reasons are struggling to find employment. This has not been any sort of burden as invariably we have found that if treated with respect and given a chance, these people are just as successful in meeting their obligations as those in more privileged positions.

 

Further we believe we cant solve all of the problems of the world, but we can use our resources to make a real difference to the lives of a small handful of people. Misfortune can happen to anyone of us at any time and we have also been in recipient of enormous generosity and kindness from complete strangers in our own time of need

 

I have also never made any great secret of the fact that as a teenager I was also the victim of DV which took many years to come to terms with. Undoubtably that has contributed to my interest in the issue and provided motivation to genuinely assist others affected by DV if I can.

 

I would suggest your indignation towards my picture of the DV booklet which is strong affirmation that all of this is actually true is more out of embarrassment that you have clearly been proved wrong rather than anything else.

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@davidc4430 wrote:

'You saw intimidation, I didn't.'

 

isnt that the whole point of intimidation

it doesnt matter what i think

it matters what the target thinks

 

perhaps in a thread like this one a private message first

'hi, can i post a comment with a picture with your name in it?'

include the picture

 

hindsight is a wonderful gift


 If you cant attack the information, attack the person providing it. And if you can brand them a domestic abuser at the same time, all the better !

 

I suspect the last line of my response to hannahs comments is more to the point

 

I would suggest your indignation towards my picture of the DV booklet which is strong affirmation that all of this is actually true is more out of embarrassment that you have clearly been proved wrong rather than anything else.

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i have no problem with the picture of the booklet

 

its the note on top thats the issue, not really required, but made the 'target' feel uncomfortable.

btw, i never saw the post until now and i didnt kudo either your or the reply.

 

just my view, dont make things personal, even in retaliation.

adding the handwritten note made it personal, you could have just used the 'quote' button

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@davidc4430 wrote:

i have no problem with the picture of the booklet

 

its the note on top thats the issue, not really required, but made the 'target' feel uncomfortable.

btw, i never saw the post until now and i didnt kudo either your or the reply.

 

just my view, dont make things personal, even in retaliation.

adding the handwritten note made it personal, you could have just used the 'quote' button


Had I not included the note and I have no doubts hannah and her little friends would all be jumping in to claim it was just a picture taken from the internet. And as for " making it personal " I think any reasonable person would agree hannah and her friends had already gone there. 

 

Coming home from work a couple of days ago I discovered another responder to this thread posted remarks suggesting I supported and made excuses for domestic violence offenders. I suggested their remarks where verging on defamatory and explained my position on the issue.

 

What I didn't tell her was that on that particular afternoon while she was sitting on her a.$$ in her comfortable house, polishing her poison pen, I was screwing new sheets of iron onto the roof of a house I specifically purchased for the young DV woman mentioned in my posts. To say I was ropable at her rudeness and ignorance was an understatement.

 

To be frank the attitude of some of the " say lots, do nothing " regulars on this forum is quite disgusting and if they choose to attack me in the way they have, I think it is reasonable that I respond to highlight the errors in those personal attacks. And if being proven wrong hurts their feelings......well tough ti.tties

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I don't get the outrage LOL


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Can somebody write my username on a piece of paper, take a pic of it and post it plz? just wanna see how i feel about it

I'm guessing i won't get intimidated somehow, cheers


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@joz*garage wrote:

Can somebody write my username on a piece of paper, take a pic of it and post it plz? just wanna see how i feel about it

I'm guessing i won't get intimidated somehow, cheers


good for you

 

but as i said, it doesnt matter what you or i think.

 

its what the 'target' thinks that matters.

 

seeing my name on a scrap of paper wouldnt bother me either.

but i'm not hannah am i?

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@joz*garage wrote:

I don't get the outrage LOL



Its probably all a bit to close to home for me at the moment having gone through the recent DV " incident " with the young woman. This thread is starting to get a bit too toxic for me. Theres a whole " real world " out there with " real people " doing " real stuff ". The sun is shining and my front door beckons. Time to take the dogs out to the farm dam for a swim    Smiley Happy

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