The matter of self-quarantine

[rogespeed]

Self-quarantine , a noble undertaking , consideration to one's neighbour and community , a civic duty - but how diligently completed ?

Consider the rate in which driver's are busted for speeding , year after year ..... and the rationale for.

[icyfroth]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

Some of us are taking this virus a lot more seriously than you obviously are.

Cancer is not contageous.....I have my annual flu shot.....I am not mobile enough to get into any accidents.  So actually coronavirus IS my main worry just now.

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Yes. I'm sorry. I'm a survivor, and plan to continue to be so.

I'm sorry you have health and other mobility problems.Truly.

I'm guessing your health problems keep you mainly indoors in any case.

So your concerns re COVID should be minimal

[domino-710]

Of course they're minimal - we also only think of ourselves.

Buggar family & friends.

Sheesh. 

[lyndal1838]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

Some of us are taking this virus a lot more seriously than you obviously are.

Cancer is not contageous.....I have my annual flu shot.....I am not mobile enough to get into any accidents.  So actually coronavirus IS my main worry just now.

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Yes. I'm sorry. I'm a survivor, and plan to continue to be so.

I'm sorry you have health and other mobility problems.Truly.

I'm guessing your health problems keep you mainly indoors in any case.

So your concerns re COVID should be minimal

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I have not left the house since January and yet I have just come down with a nasty cold.

My OH is healthy and has not left home since last Sunday.

Frankly I am not really convinced that the virus will be stopped by people remaining isolated.....anything airborn will still find a way.

[rogespeed]

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@springyzone wrote:

I can tell you now there are many, many people who are not obeying the 14 days of self isolation.

I was reading a report by someone who came over from US & she said the announcement was made about it on the plane but it was really just so much background noise. She was surprised it was not impressed on people. To her, it smacked of Australia not taking it too seriously, and I think she was right.

On a more personal level, I have a sister who works for Mercedes. (sales are going gangbusters at the moment, with Chinese rapt in the low aussie dollar). About 3 or 4 weeks back, she had a few people from China through, fairly fresh off the plane. Definitely breaking their supposed 14 day self-isolation.

Unless something is enforced, you'll never get total cooperation. Just a fact of life. It reminds me of a classroom. 80% or more of students will do the right thing if you ask them, just because they want to do the right thing. But there will always be one or two in any class who won't.

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Yes is quarantine with expediency - and i am sure no one is roping in the " guest workers"  

[rogespeed]

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@springyzone wrote:

I can tell you now there are many, many people who are not obeying the 14 days of self isolation.

I was reading a report by someone who came over from US & she said the announcement was made about it on the plane but it was really just so much background noise. She was surprised it was not impressed on people. To her, it smacked of Australia not taking it too seriously, and I think she was right.

On a more personal level, I have a sister who works for Mercedes. (sales are going gangbusters at the moment, with Chinese rapt in the low aussie dollar). About 3 or 4 weeks back, she had a few people from China through, fairly fresh off the plane. Definitely breaking their supposed 14 day self-isolation.

Unless something is enforced, you'll never get total cooperation. Just a fact of life. It reminds me of a classroom. 80% or more of students will do the right thing if you ask them, just because they want to do the right thing. But there will always be one or two in any class who won't.

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If a person breaks quaratine and spreads the disease then they should be charged with minimal assault , depending upon the outcome of the victim possibly manslaughter 

This will make most people think twice 

[rogespeed]

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@springyzone wrote:

I can tell you now there are many, many people who are not obeying the 14 days of self isolation.

I was reading a report by someone who came over from US & she said the announcement was made about it on the plane but it was really just so much background noise. She was surprised it was not impressed on people. To her, it smacked of Australia not taking it too seriously, and I think she was right.

On a more personal level, I have a sister who works for Mercedes. (sales are going gangbusters at the moment, with Chinese rapt in the low aussie dollar). About 3 or 4 weeks back, she had a few people from China through, fairly fresh off the plane. Definitely breaking their supposed 14 day self-isolation.

Unless something is enforced, you'll never get total cooperation. Just a fact of life. It reminds me of a classroom. 80% or more of students will do the right thing if you ask them, just because they want to do the right thing. But there will always be one or two in any class who won't.

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If a person breaks quaratine and spreads the disease then they should be charged with minimal assault , depending upon the outcome of the victim , possibly manslaughter 

This will make most people think twice 

[rogespeed]

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@chameleon54 wrote:

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@springyzone wrote:

I can tell you now there are many, many people who are not obeying the 14 days of self isolation.

I was reading a report by someone who came over from US & she said the announcement was made about it on the plane but it was really just so much background noise. She was surprised it was not impressed on people. To her, it smacked of Australia not taking it too seriously, and I think she was right.

On a more personal level, I have a sister who works for Mercedes. (sales are going gangbusters at the moment, with Chinese rapt in the low aussie dollar). About 3 or 4 weeks back, she had a few people from China through, fairly fresh off the plane. Definitely breaking their supposed 14 day self-isolation.

Unless something is enforced, you'll never get total cooperation. Just a fact of life. It reminds me of a classroom. 80% or more of students will do the right thing if you ask them, just because they want to do the right thing. But there will always be one or two in any class who won't.

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While some of the one or two in each class will go on to become anti social, pain in the a$$e$ in adult life, a percentage of these non conformists will also go on to become our best and brightest. The arts are full of non conformists as is the business sector. If everyone dumbs down to the lowest common denominator of social conformity, life will become very bland, boring and unproductive very quickly.

Hail be to the non conformists !

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Hail to the benign non-comformists !  and may they survive the grinding psychological bludgening 

[go-tazz]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

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I have not left the house since January and yet I have just come down with a nasty cold.

My OH is healthy and has not left home since last Sunday.

Frankly I am not really convinced that the virus will be stopped by people remaining isolated.....anything airborn will still find a way

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Human coronaviruses are spread from someone infected with COVID-19 virus to other close contacts with that

person through contaminated droplets spread by coughing or sneezing, or by contact with contaminated hands,

surfaces or objects.

The time between when a person is exposed to the virus and when symptoms first appear is typically 5 to 6 days,

although may range from 2 to 14 days. For this reason, people who might have been in contact with a confirmed

case are being asked to self-isolate for 14 days.

Most COVID-19 cases appear to be spread from people who have symptoms. A small number of people may have

been infectious before their symptoms developed.

[repentatleisure1952]

bludgeoning.

[not_for_sale2025]

The advice on the incubation period depends on which health organisation we listen to. They will reach agreement when they learn more. One incubation period was found to be 24 days, but the WHO said this could reflect a 'double exposure'." Double exposure"?? It seems up to 14 days is the most agreed upon time for symptoms to appear. What concerns me is a person could be infectious for 14 days until they develop symptoms and self quarantine. The below link breaks down the incubation data:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-incubation-period/