Trinity doctrine is a LIE.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

For those interested, I include a link to a United Church of God site which very clearly tells of the history of the adoption of the Trinity Belief. It states what I have believed all along - that the doctrine IS NOT BIBLICAL and that ..... well, you can read for yourself.

http://www.ucg.org/booklet/god-trinity/surprising-origins-trinity-doctrine/

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

what is roman church?

dont think i've heard of it either.

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the Church that the Romans invented - Emperor Constantine - who decided what was to be included and what was to be excluded from the Christian teachings - the abortion of the TRUE Church - that included such teachings as Trinity, HellFire and the immortal soul into Christianity where it had not been in the original teachings of Jesus. The same one that incorporated Pagan holidays like Christmas and Easter into the teachings. You may know it as the Roman Catholic Church.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

"The funny thing is that Paul warned of false doctrines creeping in and none of them think their doctrine is false.".

Yes, they discuss that too, when they are discussing Trinity and Immortal Soul among others.

[Anonymous]

i wasnt aware the roman catholic church

was known by other names.

very confusing. 

[rabbitearbandicoot]

I have included a couple of versions of this scripture, but you can look at any version you like.
If this doesn't convince you that God and Jesus are separate individuals, and that the Trinity is a LIE then I give up.

1 Corinthians 15:22-28 Contemporary English Version (CEV)

22 Adam brought death to all of us, and Christ will bring life to all of us. 23 But we must each wait our turn. Christ was the first to be raised
to life, and his people will be raised to life when he returns. 24 Then after Christ has destroyed all powers and forces, the end will come, and he
will give the kingdom to God the Father.

25 Christ will rule until he puts all his enemies under his power, 26 and the last enemy he destroys will be death.
27 When the Scriptures say that he will put everything under his power, they don’t include God. It was God who put everything under the power
of Christ. 28 After everything is under the power of God’s Son, he will put himself under the power of God, who put everything under his
Son’s power. Then God will mean everything to everyone.

1 Corinthians 15:22-28 New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised (NRSVA)

22 for as all die in Adam, so all will be made alive in Christ. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those
who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end,[a] when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father, after he has destroyed every ruler
and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
27 For ‘God has put all things in subjection under his feet.’ But when it says, ‘All things are put in subjection’, it is plain that this does
not include the one who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him,
then the Son himself will also be subjected to the one who put all things in subjection under him, so that God may be all in all.

It CLEARLY says that at the end Jesus will hand over the kingdom to God

It CLEARLY say that Jesus will destroy every ruler and every power.
It CLEARLY says Jesus must rule until all things are put under Jesus.
It CLEARLY says that "all things" that are put under Jesus DOES NOT INCLUDE GOD HIMSELF.
It CLEARLY says that once this is accomplished, Jesus will hand over to God and become subjected to him.

If Jesus is himself God then this whole scripture means nothing, and in Graham's terminolgy should be torn out of the Bible.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

i wasnt aware the roman catholic church

was known by other names.

very confusing. 

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Didn't you know She is the Whore Of  Babylon? 

As I said before, this argument is degenerating into a Big Endians versus Little Endians piece of absurdity

Out in the real world people are starving,  killing each other,and  dying of preventable diseases, yet  apparently salvation for the human race depends on knowing whether Jesus was really  God or only a demigod.

[2014eelea]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

"The funny thing is that Paul warned of false doctrines creeping in and none of them think their doctrine is false.".

Yes, they discuss that too, when they are discussing Trinity and Immortal Soul among others.

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I think it is pointless us discussing this.

So let's try a different tack.

For a start do you agree or disagree that the Bible as it is translated is correct 100% without error?

Secondly do you agree that Good Friday is correct and that the crucifixion took place on a Friday?

Thirdly do you agree with your so called scholars (they all claimsame thing) that Jesus was born when Herod the Great was King?

[2014eelea]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

i wasnt aware the roman catholic church

was known by other names.

very confusing. 

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Didn't you know She is the Whore Of  Babylon? 

As I said before, this argument is degenerating into a Big Endians versus Little Endians piece of absurdity

Out in the real world people are starving,  killing each other,and  dying of preventable diseases, yet  apparently salvation for the human race depends on knowing whether Jesus was really  God or only a demigod.

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Who is the Whore of Babylon?quotes scholars and these same scholars will tell you that the RC Church is the "whore of Babylon".To date almost everyone of those scholars has REFUSED to answer me when I show they cannot be correct.

The Bible says not to trust man but trust God yet they all seem to trust the translators and the so called scholars 100%.

To address what you stated,it depends on what you call salvation and whether of not whether people die or not ,,preventable or otherwise is important.

[2014eelea]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

"The funny thing is that Paul warned of false doctrines creeping in and none of them think their doctrine is false.".

Yes, they discuss that too, when they are discussing Trinity and Immortal Soul among others.

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Further Clive,you quote people that alsobelieve in the nonsense called "The Antichrist" and "The False Prophet".Both of these doctrines is provable nonsense.Why should I believe anything they say when they believe in that nonsense which has no basis in Scripture?

[rabbitearbandicoot]

"I think it is pointless us discussing this."

Yes, I agree. It is OBVIOUS to anyone that the TRINITY doctrine is a LIE - an invention of a Pagan Roman Emperor and propogated by a series of infallible Popes. I'm glad we agree.

Thankfully, more and more are realising this.

[2014eelea]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

"I think it is pointless us discussing this."

Yes, I agree. It is OBVIOUS to anyone that the TRINITY doctrine is a LIE - an invention of a Pagan Roman Emperor and propogated by a series of infallible Popes. I'm glad we agree.

Thankfully, more and more are realising this.

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And I note you ran from the questions that will show you are wrong.I have had over 200 refuse to answer these questions.I ask you as I ask them,what are you frightened of?Why are you so scared to answer?