@isgodnu wrote:People in the US are not forced to arm to protect themselves.
They are allowed to arm to protect themselves. There is a distinct difference.
A difference which defines the line between freedom and tyranny.
It's sad that some people are not allowed to do so- but a fact of life in Australia
Only someone from the US would come up with that as the rest of the world sees it as being forced as in that
they have no choice but to arm themselves due to easy availability of guns to the general population.
Because nutters/criminals,etc and any other human being is allowed to own a gun regardless of any so called
control the ordinary citizen is forced to buy a gun to defend themselves.
Then you call it a line defined between freedom and tyranny and that is only on the interpretation of the 2nd
amendment on whether the right to bear arms is only for the sole purpose for the raising of a militia to protect
the country or states from the Government or invaders.
Yet that is not the case as the gun lobby is in control and as decided by the supreme court and it's the vote of
those 3 out of 5 judges that are now responsible for any further deaths that occur in the US including the
22.000 that die of suicide each year where a gun is used (including 1000 children).
When you force a citizen to arm themselves for their own defence then you take away their freedom.
How many senseless murders are commited in the US each year because some idiot has a gun and decides to
shoot and kill someone because they can and those judges and a lot of the US citizens say they can because
they say they have the right to bear arms and are therfore responsible.
That's how the rest of the world looks at the US and the 2nd amendment (not as a right to own guns but a right
to kill it's own citizens and themselves because they wont believe a document in the way it was written and
instead have put their own death sentence on the citzens that are killed each year).
@bidicus*maximus wrote:Many people here in the US don't own guns and don't feel "forced" to own one or more to protect themselves from their fellow citizens. I don't own any guns and have lived here all of my life.
Many may do but there is also a large proportion that feels that they are forced to have a gun as a form of
protection against criminals that do have easy access to guns.
Yet the gun rate is 120 guns per 100 inhabitants and the highest rate of suicide in the world where a gun is
used.
The "protection" of owning a gun isn't always so much an everyday need as it is an insurance policy against the rise of a government that may wish to take away our rights and freedoms.
That's exactly the paranoia the gun lobby uses in it's excuse to allow everyone to own a gun (the
government isn't going to take away your rights and freedoms and so there is no need for gun ownership
for that malarky).
That's also the stupidity of why people buy semi automatic weapons which have only one use and that's to
kill as many PEOPLE as as possible and whichhas been shown a number of times.
Making guns illegal wouldn't stop criminals from buying them any more than making drugs illegal stops a substance abuser from buying drugs.
It's never too late to put a better form of gun control in place and the first step is to ban all semi automatic
weapons of any kind.
It it had being illegal to sell semi automatic weapons in the first place those shootings may not have happened.
In simple terms the US in general is a dangerous place to live due to the law of the gun and lack of gun control.
