What About The Children?

[the_great_she_elephant]

I am amazed and disgusted that in all the indignation over what Gillian Triggs should or shouldn't have done or who said or didn't say what to her, not ONE SINGLE POLITICIAN  except, finally, Malcolm Turnbull, has commented in any way on the contents of her report..

She found that  over a 15-month period from January 2013 to March 2014, spanning both the Labor and Coalition governments  there were 233 recorded assaults involving children and 33 incidents of reported sexual assault. 

If these findings are true - and as far as I know nobody has so far disputed them -   then what is going to be done about it? Who had the duty of care? who is going to be held responsible. What measures are going to be put in place to stop this abuse happening in future?

Both Gillian Triggs and George Brandis are astute and comparitively wealthy adults able to instruct top  legal practitioners to protect their reputaions - but who is going to protect the safety of these children? How many more children have been abused since March 2014? Is a child perhaps being abused in a detention centre  even while you are reading this post? 

Surely to goodness after all that was learned from the Children In Care Royal Commission this report cannot simply be put in a "don't want to know" basket while both sides of Pariament try to gain political mileage out the motives of the Human Rghts Commissioner or the behaviour of the Attourney General.

At some point -though probably not in the lifetime of this government  or even  the one that follows it - there will inevitably be a Royal Commission into the treatment of children in detention centre. what do you imagine its findings are likely to be?

[poddster]

Did I say I have not read the report?

[gleee58]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Trigg should do what the Governor General did, offer to resign.

She is now a distraction to the HR cause.

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If you are talking about the chair of the commission her name is Professor Triggs.

When did the gov general resign?  Why hasn't that made the news?

[gleee58]

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@poddster wrote:

Did I say I have not read the report?

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You don't have to. It is very clear you haven't.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@poddster wrote:

Once again I ask, what are the details of the abuse and who were the children abused by.

Just the facts and no some airy fairy convoluted jargon in political doubletalk or psychological hooha

Just the bruises and the people who caused then will do

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It's not about bruises poddster.

Whilst there was abuse (sexual, physical and self abuse) occurring to unprotected children in detention, the abuse took many forms - lack of medical attention, no psychologically asistance, lack of professinal care etc.

The sections on childrens mental health and the lack of protection, support and assistance is paticularly horrendous.

Again, here is the report. It's not nice bed time reading: https://www.humanrights.gov.au/sites/default/files/document/publication/forgotten_children_2014.pdf

[i-need-a-martini]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Trigg should do what the Governor General did, offer to resign.

She is now a distraction to the HR cause.

 And all these children and abuse issues wouldn't have occurred if the boats had been stopped earlier,

instead of letting them come by the thousands.

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Why should she resign??

And which Governor General resigned and what for???

[vicr3000]

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Trigg should do what the Governor General did, offer to resign.

She is now a distraction to the HR cause.

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If you are talking about the chair of the commission her name is Professor Triggs.

When did the gov general resign?  Why hasn't that made the news?

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I said OFFER to resign, not that she did.

The previous Govenor general, Quentin Bryce, offered to resign when it looked like Bill Shorten would become

opposition leader "to avoid any perception of bias."

But Abbott declined the offer and asked her to serve the rest of her term, which of course she did.

(The GG was already on an extended term anyway which Abbott approved so a good outcome all round)

[i-need-a-martini]

Apologies about GG. I missed the bit that said "offered". The only GG that I know who resigned was Hollingsworth.

And why should Triggs resign from a job where she has been very successful in the role and is highly respected by all except a handful of Liberal leaders who have a weird grudge against her?

[poddster]

The report, like any other report, is steeped in ambiguity and is a document like most other reports that are designed to keep the bum of the writer firmly implanted in the seat that they occupy.

Verbose to the extreme with no substance. And not only verbose but convoluted to such an extent that it can be everything or nothing to each individual reader.

Like astrology.

Is Triggs  Gemini? 🙂

[i-need-a-martini]

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@poddster wrote:

The report, like any other report, is steeped in ambiguity and is a document like most other reports that are designed to keep the bum of the writer firmly implanted in the seat that they occupy.

Verbose to the extreme with no substance. And not only verbose but convoluted to such an extent that it can be everything or nothing to each individual reader.

Like astrology.

Is Triggs  Gemini? 🙂

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Ok. It is a lot to read. But it is only your opinion. I am not sure what ambiquity you refer to? It seems like a fairly well set out and clear report to me.

Perhaps you should go direct to the case studies if it is all a bit too "verbose"? Those case studies are pretty frank.