What would it take to stop you getting on a leaky boat?

[donnashuggy]

To me the fear of drowning might stop me, you would have to be extremely desperate wouldn't you?

[donnashuggy]

that's outrageous spot, how much would it cost to process them instead?

[spotweldersfriend]

I've got a sneaking suspicion if they were white,English speaking folk,they'd be processed pronto.

[freakiness]

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@laughing-boy wrote:

and meanwhile, the truly desperate, hungry, ill and dying are still languishing in displaced persons camps. They don't have the money to go anywhere, much less head for Australia. How nice it would be if the money spent dissuading fit young men from arriving on our shores were to be spent feeding the powerless ones.

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If you're a doctor and your colleague just got shot because he refused to torture someone by cutting off their ears would you run and eventually get on a boat?

[donnashuggy]

I wonder what the statistics are of asylum seekers that are granted asylum bludge off the system compared to those that were born here by English speaking parents? My guess is that there are a lot of hard workers amongst them and they contribute to society.

[meh_too]

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@freakiness wrote:

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@laughing-boy wrote:

and meanwhile, the truly desperate, hungry, ill and dying are still languishing in displaced persons camps. They don't have the money to go anywhere, much less head for Australia. How nice it would be if the money spent dissuading fit young men from arriving on our shores were to be spent feeding the powerless ones.

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If you're a doctor and your colleague just got shot because he refused to torture someone by cutting off their ears would you run and eventually get on a boat?

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Link please

[donnashuggy]

there is heaps of info on google, it is probably a bit disturbing to put here, it has happened.........

[polksaladallie]

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@meh_too wrote:

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@freakiness wrote:

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@laughing-boy wrote:

and meanwhile, the truly desperate, hungry, ill and dying are still languishing in displaced persons camps. They don't have the money to go anywhere, much less head for Australia. How nice it would be if the money spent dissuading fit young men from arriving on our shores were to be spent feeding the powerless ones.

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If you're a doctor and your colleague just got shot because he refused to torture someone by cutting off their ears would you run and eventually get on a boat?

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Link please

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         I am so glad that I acquired my wisdom before computers were invented.

[***super_nova***]

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@meh_too wrote:

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We go in circles because both sides of this debate think they are right. Nor is it not hard to figure out -   the money is coming from their family members already here that our government kindly gives them for nothing...  although  its nowhere near $1k a week or all the other perks aforementioned.  

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refugees accepted for settlement get the dole like anybody else; they do not get house furniture or anything else from the government.  they do get 3 month accommodation in housing commission house/flat for which they pay rent, and then they are on their own.  If they get any help it is by charities, which provide second hand furniture and other basic needs.  That is stuff that we discarded.  if people already here pay the smugglers to bring their family members, they are not paying it from the dole.  To be able to get that sort of money together they would have to work.

Actually, i would like to see some numbers to see the % of new arrivals who are on the dole, and how long it takes on average to get work.  Considering that refugees are desperate to work, and will do anything , I am quite sure that it does not take very long before they have jobs.

[lyndal1838]

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@spotweldersfriend wrote:

Its been reported that Abbotts stop the boats campaign is costing Australian taxpayers over $20 million per week.

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Does it say why it is costing $20 million and what that money is being spent on?

Among other things there would be costs of the Navy ships which are patrolling our waters.....the crews still have to be paid whether they are stopping the boats or sitting in port twiddling their thumbs.  The ships still have to be kept in order and if they are not patrolling our borders they would probably be out on exercises.

No doubt these expenses are being "blamed" on the Stop the Boats campaign....a bit unfair IMO.

Those expenses would still be there whether we are stopping the boats or not.

[twinkles**stars]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@meh_too wrote:

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@freakiness wrote:

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@laughing-boy wrote:

and meanwhile, the truly desperate, hungry, ill and dying are still languishing in displaced persons camps. They don't have the money to go anywhere, much less head for Australia. How nice it would be if the money spent dissuading fit young men from arriving on our shores were to be spent feeding the powerless ones.

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If you're a doctor and your colleague just got shot because he refused to torture someone by cutting off their ears would you run and eventually get on a boat?

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Link please

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         I am so glad that I acquired my wisdom before computers were invented.

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Have you had your swim yet? You promised a link