Why are we blaming Hockey and Abott?

Obviously the money has got to come from somewhere. Where do you want to take it from???

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@crystal**flake wrote:
People will be hurt no matter what the budget is and who is ruling it.

Its life.

I don't agree. This budget is particularly unfair on the elderly, disabled, low income earners, unemployed youth.  Not just my opinion either, if you read the major news articles.

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@nevynreally wrote:

Most of them still live at home with the parents. Or weren't you aware of that stat?

 

And I must say. It is really nice to have no mod intervention, for everyone to have their say without being censored. Makes a nice change.


Yes, it does make a nice change.

 

And no, most under 25s I know do not live at home. Some might return home for short periods of time but they don't still live there.  In fact most around here if they want a decent job have to leave home to get one.  

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Anyone can have an accident, and end up disabled and unable to work. How do you unplan that?

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That's rubbish.  My SIL and daughter did plan very well. They just did not expect to be without work for so long that they had to ask the bank to reduce their mortgage payments for a few months.  They paid extra when he started looking for work (before her maternity leave) and still needed to reduce the payments before he found a job (after maternity leave finished).

You know, I think I get it now. Most people post based on their own personal experience. It's not the same as the general populations.

 

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am*3 wrote:

I can't believe you wrote that. Govt benefits are intended to cover basic necessities ( food, electricity & a roof over ones head). That is what people on benefits are struggling to pay now, cut their pension by 10-18% what do they cut out??????

 

If you think a person can live a 'livestyle' on $250 a week (Newstart/dole) please tell us how.

 

 


Well some do don't they?  Thats why they are complaining now, cause its not going to so easy to get?

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6 months without an income 
how long can people survive without food 

Medically speaking, most doctors agree that healthy humans can go up to eight weeks without food as long as they have water. People have gone longer and been fine, and people have starved to death in less time. Being strong and in good physical shape can help you survive longer, but so does having extra body fat. The body stores energy needed to live in the form of fat, carbohydrates and proteins. The carbs are the first thing to be used up without more food coming in. The fat goes next, which explains why people with more of it can survive longer. Then the proteins go. If you get to the point that your body is using up proteins, basically the body itself, then you're in bad shape.

Your metabolism also plays a role. Metabolism is what converts food into energy. If you have a slow metabolism, you'll burn your food intake slower and be able to go longer without replacing the food energy. If you go without food, your metabolism will adjust accordingly and slow down on its own -- basically doing what it can to pitch in for survival's sake.

Climate is a major factor too. The bad news is that both cold and hot weather are no good if you have no food. The good news is that extreme heat and cold will kill you in other ways before you have a chance at starvation. But in terms of living without food, heat means faster dehydration -- cold means more energy is burned to keep the body's temperature at a cozy 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit (37 degrees Celsius). If you're lucky enough to be in mild temperatures, you'll be able to live a little longer without food.

Some symptoms you may see if you go more than a couple of days without food are:

  • Weakness
  • Confusion
  • Chronic diarrhea
  • Irritability
  • Bad decision making
  • Decreased sex drive
  • Immune deficiency

Advanced starvation will cause your organs to shut down one by one. People in the throes of severe starvation might experience the following:

  • Hallucinations
  • Convulsions
  • Muscle spasms
  • Irregular heartbeat
THE TREATMENT OF SOVIET POWS: STARVATION, DISEASE, AND SHOOTINGS, JUNE 1941–JANUARY 1942

At left, a column of Soviet prisoners of war, under German guard, marches away from the front. Place uncertain, July 1, 1941.

— Archiwum Dokumentocji Mechanizney

 

GERMANS REJECT GENEVA CONVENTION

POLICY OF MASS STARVATION IN THE EAST
 
Soviet prisoners of war were the first victims of the Nazi policy of mass starvation in the east. In August 1941, the German army set a ration of just 2,200 calories per day for working Soviet prisoners of war. Even this was not enough to sustain life for long, but in practice the POWs received much less than the official ration. Many Soviet prisoners of war received at most a ration of only 700 calories a day. Within a few weeks the result of this "subsistence" ration, as the German army termed it, was death by starvation. The POWs were often provided, for example, only special "Russian" bread made from sugar beet husks and straw flour. Suffering from malnutrition and nearing starvation, numerous reports from the late summer and fall of 1941 show that in many camps the desperate POWs tried to ease their hunger by eating grass and leaves.

 

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007183

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@am*3 wrote:

@crystal**flake wrote:
People will be hurt no matter what the budget is and who is ruling it.

Its life.

I don't agree. This budget is particularly unfair on the elderly, disabled, low income earners, unemployed youth.  Not just my opinion either, if you read the major news articles.


Sorry but I see this one no different to all the others and the response is the same, it doesn't change.  People focus on what THEY are missing out on ect.

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@am*3 wrote:

Anyone can have an accident, and end up disabled and unable to work. How do you unplan that?


This is what I'm saying, you plan for misfortune.

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@freakiness wrote:

@nevynreally wrote:

 


Yes, it does make a nice change.

 

And no, most under 25s I know do not live at home. Some might return home for short periods of time but they don't still live there.  In fact most around here if they want a decent job have to leave home to get one.  



Nice we shared that. 🙂

Most under 25's I know either live at home, or in shared housing, with mates, friends. They get rental assistance, care packages from the parents. Just like living at Uni. LOL

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It isn't just personal experience if you know what goes on in your community/area. 

 

If your area is acknowledged as having the 2nd highest youth unemployment rate in NSW.

 

If the local news is  full of stories about cuts to TAFE courses & services ( no interpreters for deaf people now).

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@crystal**flake wrote:

@am*3 wrote:

@crystal**flake wrote:
People will be hurt no matter what the budget is and who is ruling it.

Its life.

I don't agree. This budget is particularly unfair on the elderly, disabled, low income earners, unemployed youth.  Not just my opinion either, if you read the major news articles.


Sorry but I see this one no different to all the others and the response is the same, it doesn't change.  People focus on what THEY are missing out on ect.


No Crystal, many people actually can and do think about people other than themselves

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